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When the Nation called, Walz Quit. A Quitter for VP.

When the Nation called, Walz Quit. A Quitter for VP.

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@Soothfast said
You haven't the faintest inkling of a notion was real socialism is. For you it's just a funny word to throw around, like a toddler going about the house saying "ladle, ladle, ladle."
My idea is faint enough. If you fellers would leave us producers the hell alone, I would not have any more faint ideas. And when you get off it, would you take your sorry-ass bother who is living in one of my rental properties with you.

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@Soothfast said
In fact, this is the key to the Republican smear. Walz's decision to retire, and the paperwork that put it into motion, came about many months before May 2005. One does not simply bail out of the military in a day, there is a procedure. But Republicans are claiming he "quit right before a scheduled deployment." A gross mischaracterization, to say the least.

This arti ...[text shortened]... use he did not complete additional coursework at the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Academy.”[/b][/quote]
he quit shortly after receiving notice of deployment…now, you want to talk about his stolen valor?

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@AverageJoe1 said
Oops, apologies, it is Ponderable. Your posts are very good, you have probably won several debates.
So maybe you can tell me why Shav and ponderable simply cannot stick to an issue. We get enough foolishness with the Sue one-liners In one ear and out the other, it is difficult to find an adult debate form. You have made good points on this issue as you defend this ...[text shortened]...

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/07/politics/minnesota-governor-walz-progressive-policies/index.html#
Because it’s a nothing burger of an issue.

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@shavixmir said
Because it’s a nothing burger of an issue.
And that's basically the size of it. The whole "stolen valor" flap is just the usual GOP smear tactics in action. It's all based on a single thing Walz said, once, about 6 or 7 years ago: a kind of garbled sentence that, depending on where one placed the comma, could be interpreted in two different ways. Republicans, being sick pieces of crap, choose to make the interpretation that is false.

As for his choosing to retire after 24 years, obviously, just on (lack of) principle, Republicans must say he did it to get out of being deployed. No evidence whatsoever, of course. Just smear the man anyway, because Project 2025 must get underway next year, and that requires installing a dictator to do it.

For my part, I'm done with this thread, because the twats doing all the lying and slandering about Walz's sterling military service have, as usual, nothing of substance to offer other than parroting the same lies and slander over and over ad nauseum. Truly sick f​uc​​ks, all of them.

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@Soothfast said
And that's basically the size of it. The whole "stolen valor" flap is just the usual GOP smear tactics in action. It's all based on a single thing Walz said, once, about 6 or 7 years ago: a kind of garbled sentence that, depending on where one placed the comma, could be interpreted in two different ways. Republicans, being sick pieces of crap, choose to make the i ...[text shortened]... roting the same lies and slander over and over ad nauseum. Truly sick f​uc​​ks, all of them.
I read on a BBC fact checker that he left the military to pursue his political goals.
And his unit wasn’t deployed until 6 months after he left, or something like that.

And besides, who gives a flyijg fvck? Even if he did drop out to not have to be deployed, there are loads of legitimate reasons for that. Family obligations, his age, 24 years of service a loooooong time, career, etc.

So, a nothing burger with a topping of 0-interest.

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@Soothfast said
And that's basically the size of it. The whole "stolen valor" flap is just the usual GOP smear tactics in action. It's all based on a single thing Walz said, once, about 6 or 7 years ago: a kind of garbled sentence that, depending on where one placed the comma, could be interpreted in two different ways. Republicans, being sick pieces of crap, choose to make the i ...[text shortened]... roting the same lies and slander over and over ad nauseum. Truly sick f​uc​​ks, all of them.
so you are gonna run when his stolen valor comes up?

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@Mott-The-Hoople
Tell me, how many years did YOU serve in the military? I did FOUR YEARS, I bet you got off on an ingrown toenail.
Walz served near a quarter century and retired and that was two WEEKS before the order came down to go to Iraq.
So Vance weaponizes the honorable military service of a man who now might be VP and naturally you fall over and play dead and repuke whatever Vance or Trump pukes out.
If Trump wins, you must be vying for one of those choice jobs that will be killed when Trump fires 40,000 federal workers.
You would have your lips permanently sewn into his ass.

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@sonhouse said
@Mott-The-Hoople
Tell me, how many years did YOU serve in the military? I did FOUR YEARS, I bet you got off on an ingrown toenail.
Walz served near a quarter century and retired and that was two WEEKS before the order came down to go to Iraq.
So Vance weaponizes the honorable military service of a man who now might be VP and naturally you fall over and play dead and repu ...[text shortened]... d when Trump fires 40,000 federal workers.
You would have your lips permanently sewn into his ass.
Why would Trump not want people loyal to him to servein his administration? Can you please answer this seriously without redundant rant?

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@AverageJoe1
You need go no further than the firing of James Comey, then head of the FBI, Trump DEMANDED Comey swear loyalty to TRUMP and TRUMP alone, and his reply was my loyalty is to the constitution and three days later he was fired.
In order to work as a civil service person you don't have to swear loyalty to POTUS, but Trump wants that as the requisite to work. That is NOT how it works, that makes him a king, above the law which is exactly how he thinks of himself.
And don't EVEN go ' so now Soundhouse knows how Trump thinks' I am going by what he fuuking SAYS.
The reason Trump wants loyalty statements is to allow him to go after his perceived enemies which is NOT a function of POTUS. That is the function of a dictator.
But you don't know the difference, so anything Trump says is fine with you.

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@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
You need go no further than the firing of James Comey, then head of the FBI, Trump DEMANDED Comey swear loyalty to TRUMP and TRUMP alone, and his reply was my loyalty is to the constitution and three days later he was fired.
In order to work as a civil service person you don't have to swear loyalty to POTUS, but Trump wants that as the requisite to work. That ...[text shortened]... unction of a dictator.
But you don't know the difference, so anything Trump says is fine with you.
Whew. Sorry everyone, I tried.
How does SHouse know the reasons Trump does stuff?

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@AverageJoe1
That is your answer? Do you think firing Comey was fake news?
Any job at republican headquarters requires one to say the election in 2020 was stolen AND to swear loyalty to Trump.
Just like Hitler did back in his day.
What the HELL is wrong with you thinking there is nothing wrong with Trump demanding a loyalty oath when NO OTHER POTUS EVER REQUIRED THAT.
He wants an oath like that so he can control ALL of government not just executive.

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@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
That is your answer? Do you think firing Comey was fake news?
Any job at republican headquarters requires one to say the election in 2020 was stolen AND to swear loyalty to Trump.
Just like Hitler did back in his day.
What the HELL is wrong with you thinking there is nothing wrong with Trump demanding a loyalty oath when NO OTHER POTUS EVER REQUIRED THAT.
He wants an oath like that so he can control ALL of government not just executive.
That is no answer. I did not even know you asked a question. Frankly, if you look at all of your post, you don’t ask many questions.!!!

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@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
That is your answer? Do you think firing Comey was fake news?
Any job at republican headquarters requires one to say the election in 2020 was stolen AND to swear loyalty to Trump.
Just like Hitler did back in his day.
What the HELL is wrong with you thinking there is nothing wrong with Trump demanding a loyalty oath when NO OTHER POTUS EVER REQUIRED THAT.
He wants an oath like that so he can control ALL of government not just executive.
Interesting....is that true?

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@Cliff-Mashburn
You didn't look at Project 2025? There are so many anti America policies in there it is hard to know where to begin, one is firing of all fed workers and installing sycophants requiring a pledge of loyalty to Trump as the main qualification.
Fill the entire fed worker force with yes men,
That is just ONE of many many traitorous policies.

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@no1marauder said
24 years in uniform.

How many was a "real man" like Donald Trump in?

Oh that's right; he had bone spurs.
Eisenhower was a general but never was in combat. Will you defend him too?

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