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Why are y'all soft on crime?

Why are y'all soft on crime?

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@soothfast said
Ever considered just reading a book that doesn't come with a complimentary pack of crayons?
Uh, it should be obvious by now that he is NOT a Democrat. Enjoy your book.

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@AverageJoe1
Why don't you tell us just what led up to that cultural shift? I would suppose any answer you post would not include the 300 years of slavery here in the US and you will NEVER understand the profound depression of the slaves and the effect on the genetics of their children. For that we have ONLY whitey to blame.
After 300 years or more of US slavery there are those saying deport them back to Africa but that is never going to happen so you have to live with the consequences.
I assume you are another racist Christian Nationalists wanting to put Jews in reservations and such and force Christianity to be the state religion, so much for freedom of religion or separation of church and state which is EXACTLY what they want, Christianity to be the official religion of the US, screw Hindi', Rastafarians, Sikh's, Muslims, Buddhists and the like.

And a ten thousand mile long fence around the entire US so nobody can get in.

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@Beowulf
You know that personally from your time in prison?

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@averagejoe1 said
https://abc7chicago.com/san-francisco-attack-asian-woman-beaten-in-sf-attacked-by-four-people-elderly-kicked-head/12093778/

What is your endgame? This is all because of liberals. Do y'all know people who do this? 10 cretins in NYC committed a total of 550 of the crimes there
I knw you don't like data Joe, but the data show you're spewing a false political talking point used by feckless Republicans because they don't have anything else.

Dems /libs whatever you want to call them are not soft on crime.

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@shavixmir said
That’s right. Ignore the questions and the actual issues.

Just lock ‘em up and throw away the key, eh?
How’s that working out for you? Highest prison population in the world, mass shootings every week, drug crimes, etc.

Your “system” sure seems to be creating a better society to live in, doesn’t it?
So Don't lock up law-breakers? Are you saying that?

And your next comment is quite conflicting, that we are covered up with crime, but at the same time you are saying, facetiously, to lock 'em up! You are saying, Shav, that we are covered up with all the cultural problems which lead to law breaking, and I guess you are saying we should nip it in the bud with education, etc. Shav, have you seen what they are teaching our children? It will all lead to hell, Shav. EG, it teaches socialism, which would result in hell for the USA, having our kids and grandkids working in factories, very unhappy, who will commit crime quite easily. So what is your idea to stop crime in America? All ears, but meanwhile we should put lawbreakers in jail. You think we should not??

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@no1marauder said
Apparently he thinks everyone arrested for a minor crime should rot in jail indefinitely.

Bail reform was implemented for a pretty simple reason; neither NY or any other state has the jail capacity to keep everyone arrested in jail until trial even if it was allowed by the Constitution (which it isn't). This isn't being "soft on crime"; it's recognizing A) Reality and B) The 8th Amendment.
Of course I do not think that. Let us let Marauder decided what crimes deserve jail time. I will pick a crime that is not on his list, and go out and do it. I hope it results in my getting some money or goods that belong to someone else!! Free Stuff!!!
You kids are such pollyannas, goody two shoes. You do not know what is going on, wrong news sources. Do you know that the bill that passed yesterday will result in higher taxes and inflation for the middle class in the USA, whom were promised no tax increase by candidate Biden? I didn't think so.

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@sonhouse said
@Beowulf
You know that personally from your time in prison?
Yep.

I've seen all kinds of criminals from all walks of life and I never once met anyone who fit the mold of "crime to feed the kids"

Their was one guy who was caught with an illegal gun and his reason was because his neighborhood was so bad he needed it for protection.
I believed him and so did the judge because he was lenient with his sentencing.
So that could be a crime of necessity I suppose 🤔

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@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
Why don't you tell us just what led up to that cultural shift? I would suppose any answer you post would not include the 300 years of slavery here in the US and you will NEVER understand the profound depression of the slaves and the effect on the genetics of their children. For that we have ONLY whitey to blame.
After 300 years or more of US slavery there are ...[text shortened]... hists and the like.

And a ten thousand mile long fence around the entire US so nobody can get in.
A history lesson from Sonhouse.
What is your point? Sonhouse.....we are where we are, man.

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@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
Why don't you tell us just what led up to that cultural shift? I would suppose any answer you post would not include the 300 years of slavery here in the US and you will NEVER understand the profound depression of the slaves and the effect on the genetics of their children. For that we have ONLY whitey to blame.
After 300 years or more of US slavery there are ...[text shortened]... hists and the like.

And a ten thousand mile long fence around the entire US so nobody can get in.
Sonhouse, you misrepresent me. I think we should admit 1M legal people a year into this country.
Why did you say that?
Ha, this reminds me, do your remember last year when Shav said "No one is illegal". You guys are really flighty. Wonder what YOU will say next!

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@AverageJoe1
Totally ignoring the part of my post saying blacks have changes genetically from hundreds of years of slavery and we see the result today. This is whitey's fault, ALL of us. It is white man's burden to know they have genetically changed blacks in the US.

So you are ok with a million legal immigrants, I guess you would much rather them to be only white though. And rich.

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@averagejoe1 said
So Don't lock up law-breakers? Are you saying that?

And your next comment is quite conflicting, that we are covered up with crime, but at the same time you are saying, facetiously, to lock 'em up! You are saying, Shav, that we are covered up with all the cultural problems which lead to law breaking, and I guess you are saying we should nip it in the bud with educati ...[text shortened]... in America? All ears, but meanwhile we should put lawbreakers in jail. You think we should not??
I proposed a whole load of questions you should answer.
Answer them, to yourself, honestly.

Then come back to the table.

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@Beowulf
So why didn't the dude just go about getting a real license? Was he already on the no sell list and had to go to the back street vendors?

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@sonhouse

He had a previous record.
I don't know anything about american gun laws so I'm assuming a criminal record prevents you from getting a gun legally.

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@Beowulf
Yeah, how DARE those witch hunters deny a gun to a felon. I wonder how long he stood in jail?

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@sonhouse said
@Beowulf
Yeah, how DARE those witch hunters deny a gun to a felon. I wonder how long he stood in jail?
Not long I imagine.
When Covid hit I looked up a few old prison buddies and a lot of them were released early because of covid.

The funny part is a couple of them already have outstanding warrants again 😂

You can look up any inmate as long as you know their prison number.
One of my old cellmates was murdered 😧

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