Why didn't fraud alone stop Trump?

@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
Yes, well there are stupid people for sure, just look at the people so programmed they will vote for Trump no matter what vile deeds he did, is doing and WILL be doing. Tens of millions of people so deeply programmed they don't know how to think for themselves any more and when questioned on that they get totally indignant barking about I AM THINKING FOR MYSELF.
Right, and Elon Musk is ONLY for the progress of Americans.

@AverageJoe1 said
forget it, he is not being rude, that is his way. and he has been asked often to hit quote but he never does. every forum needs an oddity so we tolerate it. have you seen his cage comments? He would put that in a post about how to make gingerbread.

@AverageJoe1
I'll TELL you what was VILE., TRUMP killing the only decent border bill in DECADES because he did not want Biden to get an OUNCE of credit for trying to deal with the border crisis.
That bill would have put one thousand five hundred new border patrol agents on the ground and a cadre of new judges to deal with the huge influx of asylum seekers, to pull the chaff from the wheat.
And don't EVEN go 'it was a TERRIBLE bill, There was not even DEBATE allowed in congress so KISS MY ASS if you are going to go that route AGAIN.
It was a BIPARTISIN bill and that is a FACT. And one the repub side they were as conservative as you can get.
Don't even BOTHER trying to diss that bill, TRUMP KILLED IT for no other reason then he WANTS a border crisis so he can have weaponization of the crisis for his own personal political gain NOTHING MORE.

@divegeester said
I know. He’s a concerned US citizen who has strong beliefs and some good points.

@AverageJoe1 said
He is intimidated by no one.
You miss my point again. I am not 'comparing' the car thief and the truck thief analogy... I am saying something that is too simple for you to grasp. You want to punish Trump for fraud . Right?? (sue says right a lot, looks weird in posts).
But you do NOT want to punish Hilary for her blatant acts. How simple a point.

...[text shortened]... s. Punish Trump but let her go? Spruce? Next you will answer with cages, SHouse does that a lot.

@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
I'll TELL you what was VILE., TRUMP killing the only decent border bill in DECADES because he did not want Biden to get an OUNCE of credit for trying to deal with the border crisis.
That bill would have put one thousand five hundred new border patrol agents on the ground and a cadre of new judges to deal with the huge influx of asylum seekers, to pull the chaf ...[text shortened]... crisis so he can have weaponization of the crisis for his own personal political gain NOTHING MORE.

@divegeester said
@sonhouse
I think the light was red when the bananas were shipped, but I don’t think the situation was being monitored.

@AverageJoe1 said
it was vile to open the border, and allow maybe 20M illegal aliens. you need to pick it up shouse

@AverageJoe1 said
People that know more than we do, and that know what to do politcally (Libs NEVER play polltical gambits) explained to the world that only about 25% of the that bill dealt with the border. It was for the Biden handlers to make it look like it was a great bill, so that people like you would think it was a good bill, and.....get this.......Vote Democratic!!!!
Look it u ...[text shortened]... ral libs on this forum who would pick my pocket in a heartbeat, but I don't think you would do that.

@AverageJoe1 said
I guess I can still pick him over Harris, given that his crimes were victimless

@spruce112358 said
The Will of the People is that We Shall NOT have Single Issue Legislation.

Therefore every bill will have provisions for e.g. building a bridge in Alaska and subsidizing hog farmers in West Virginia.

It is called "pork barrel politics" and it has been The Will of the People since the 1700's.

It will remain that way until The People are Pleased to Shew Their Displeasure By Voting their Representatives Out of Office.

@spruce112358 said
The US border has been open to asylum seekers since 1946.

No President has the right to close it except briefly for "health emergencies" because Congress has so directed.

The Will of the People is that the Border Shall Forever Remain Open Until The People Shall Direct Their Representatives Otherwise By Voting Them Out of Office.

Which has never yet happened.

@AverageJoe1 said
hahahahahaha. You are a bit late. And what do you mean no pres can close it? What in the hell??
Biden opened it. Trump can't close it? I am going to have to treat your posts llike those of Shouse
So you are cool with the open border.? Cool with the czar never going there? The czar who wants a larger office? Cool with fentanyl? What fentanyl. YOu likely dont know ...[text shortened]... is no country.
How can you vote for more of the same, the biggest question about this election.

@AverageJoe1
That is TOTAL BULLPUCKY. TRUMP killed the bill and NOTHING you can do or say will change that one bit. It was a good bill worked out by REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS but Trump didn't like giving Biden ANY credit so he killed it plain and simple so now we are stuck with the border crisis for years to come unless Kamala wins come Tuesday.

@spruce112358 said
No one is sure if they had the authority. Plus, the relevant forms were not filled out when the shuttle was dispatched.