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07 Oct 23
29 Oct 23
@no1marauder saidHamas could have prepared. They know what would be the response of the Jews. The world knew on Oct 7th, even before Netanyahu announced his intent, what would happen. They could have stocked up on water, basic food. Like I said people who are focussed on their own hatred make fatal mistakes, plus they do not care about their own people.
Your assumption that the average Palestinian in Gaza could have done anything to prepare for such an onslaught is ridiculous. Your blind hate and simple minded bigotry causes you to make idiotic claims of this sort.
30 Oct 23
@shavixmir saidYou know how deep the tunnels are?
The tunnels are not too deep for bunker buster bombs.
When were you in the tunnels?
30 Oct 23
@Metal-Brain
But you were so you know, right? It is possible to suss our where and how deep they are with proper instrumentation. Tell me what your boss Putin told you to say Comrade.
30 Oct 23
@wajoma saidFor someone who claims that the "non-initiation of force principle" is central to their ideology, you sure don't know how it works.
@no1marauder
Not bad, yes, individuals have rights, and individuals have the right to defend themselves, and individuals have the right to band together to pool their resources to defend themselves.
We may not agree on how they do it, but that is their right and I would go further and say it is an obligation if you want to live.
You must have some criteria in mind ...[text shortened]... ve better weapons to make it more 'proportionate'. Is there some 'eye for an eye' formula you apply?
While individuals have a right to self-defense, that right does not extend to causing harm to innocents. If your neighbor is presenting an immediate threat to your person, you may act in self-defense proportional to the threat, but you can't burn down his house and kill his wife and kids in response to his threat.
"Proportional" refers to the amount of force used in relation to the threat (is English your second language?). No, there isn't some magic formula (a trick you try to constantly play i.e. pretending there must be some mathematical rule or a general principle of law is invalid) but it is clear that the amount of force being used by the IDF which is killing far more civilians than enemy combatants is disproportional to any type of military necessity. Israel even admits this in their public embrace of the "Dahiya Doctrine".
30 Oct 23
@rajk999 saidHamas is not equal to the Palestinian civilians in Gaza. Punishing them by trying to starve them and deny them essential supplies like water and fuel is a war crime.
Hamas could have prepared. They know what would be the response of the Jews. The world knew on Oct 7th, even before Netanyahu announced his intent, what would happen. They could have stocked up on water, basic food. Like I said people who are focussed on their own hatred make fatal mistakes, plus they do not care about their own people.
31 Oct 23
@no1marauder saidWe took the lives of over 100,000 'INNOCENTS' with our A-Bomb. Japan. Why, we could still be fighting those vermin. Marauder, tell your loyal duped fans that the USA committed a war crime. Will you do so, this is a question.
While individuals have a right to self-defense, that right does not extend to causing harm to innocents.
You will not answer, nor clarify, nor justify your ridiculous statement.;
Why do you not answer questions?
31 Oct 23
@averagejoe1 saidWe've discussed the bombing of Hiroshima on this Forum in dozens of threads since I started here.
We took the lives of over 100,000 'INNOCENTS' with our A-Bomb. Japan. Why, we could still be fighting those vermin. Marauder, tell your loyal duped fans that the USA committed a war crime. Will you do so, this is a question.
You will not answer, nor clarify, nor justify your ridiculous statement.;
Why do you not answer questions?
Yes, it was a war crime.
No, it was not necessary to end the war.
If you want to discuss that subject, start a thread about it rather than hijacking this one.
31 Oct 23
@no1marauder saidSo angry. That is prob the main diff in libs and cons, you lack humor and you get your back up at the slightest upsettedness. I have been at two get-togethers where a lib couple storm out of the gathering and go home. One hollered.."you watch Fox news!' and left. Have you ever abruptly left a discussion in a twit?
We've discussed the bombing of Hiroshima on this Forum in dozens of threads since I started here.
Yes, it was a war crime.
No, it was not necessary to end the war.
If you want to discuss that subject, start a thread about it rather than hijacking this one.
So angry. We can feel it across the airwaves. Zahlanzi, Kev WGrass, all of you. And here you are anouncing to the world that that bombing Hiroshima was a war crime. Was Pearl Harbor, Marauder? Sticky wicket, I know.
@averagejoe1 saidHow can you not feel anger when thousands of children are being bombed, ripped to pieces, burned and murdered?
So angry. That is prob the main diff in libs and cons, you lack humor and you get your back up at the slightest upsettedness. I have been at two get-togethers where a lib couple storm out of the gathering and go home. One hollered.."you watch Fox news!' and left. Have you ever abruptly left a discussion in a twit?
So angry. We can feel it across the airwaves. ...[text shortened]... ld that that bombing Hiroshima was a war crime. Was Pearl Harbor, Marauder? Sticky wicket, I know.
In 3 weeks: thousands of children!
In which fukking world is that acceptable?
Sometimes you right-wing morons are truly despicable. Crazy, nasty little men, with no sense of realism, no empathy, no understanding of human rights… why the fukk do you exist?
Yes. Wouldn’t it be easier just to have you and your families shot dead. Executed at dawn. You know, a little collatoral damage to help humanity and the gene pool on its way…
Yes, yes… instead of hours of going over the same fukking arguments about war crimes, history and human rights… just have you stripped naked, your kids too, flailed and then shot. Problem solved.
It seems to me that the basis of your argument should be acted upon for the health of humanity.
31 Oct 23
@shavixmir saidSo. do you think Israel should surrender? Aren't they the ones who were surprised at breakfast on Oct 7? You left that out while cherry-picking. libs do not close their posts. Note that the flavor of your post omits wrongdoing by the other side.
How can you not feel anger when thousands of children are being bombed, ripped to pieces, burned and murdered?
In 3 weeks: thousands of children!
In which fukking world is that acceptable?
Sometimes you right-wing morons are truly despicable. Crazy, nasty little men, with no sense of realism, no empathy, no understanding of human rights… why the fukk do you exist?
...[text shortened]... .
It seems to me that the basis of your argument should be acted upon for the health of humanity.
You are beginning to fly off the handle like Sonhouse.
31 Oct 23
@no1marauder saidYou sure throw 'War Crime' around a lot.
Hamas is not equal to the Palestinian civilians in Gaza. Punishing them by trying to starve them and deny them essential supplies like water and fuel is a war crime.
If my neighbor beats up my child and kills his dog, I sure better stay within reasonable boundaries when I respond, i would not want to go so far as to have Mayor Marauder find me to be out of line and throw me in jail.
Hey, did you see where this school cancelled Hallowen? I have a feeling you think that is a good idea. You know, inclusion and such as that.
31 Oct 23
@averagejoe1 saidAre you gonna go hunt him and beat him up in return? Are you going to hurt his family or the entire neighbourhood he lives in if you don't find him?
You sure throw 'War Crime' around a lot.
If my neighbor beats up my child and kills his dog, I sure better stay within reasonable boundaries when I respond, i would not want to go so far as to have Mayor Marauder find me to be out of line and throw me in jail.
Hey, did you see where this school cancelled Hallowen? I have a feeling you think that is a good idea. You know, inclusion and such as that.
Yes, you psycho, you are absolutely supposed to stay withing reasonable boundaries aka the fukin law.
31 Oct 23
@averagejoe1 saidNo. I do not think Israel should surrender.
So. do you think Israel should surrender? Aren't they the ones who were surprised at breakfast on Oct 7? You left that out while cherry-picking. libs do not close their posts. Note that the flavor of your post omits wrongdoing by the other side.
You are beginning to fly off the handle like Sonhouse.
No. I don’t think the two-state solution is workable.
No. I disagree with any State identifying themselves by any religion or ethnicity.
Nope. I don’t agree with the concept of borders in their historical context.
What’s needed is a one-state solution, where everyone living in Israel and Palestine are equal citizens and live in a state of lawfulness.
The UN should move their headquarters from New York to Jersusalem and make it the capital of Israelistine (or whatever it would be called) and thus the defacto capital of the world; with a shared dome for worship.
At one point you can only look ahead and have to break with what was or should have been.
@zahlanzi saidSo when Hamas raided on that October 7, wreaking death and destruction, paying no mind to civilians, what should Israel do, or have done, in return........within 'reasonable boundaries', of course. And feel free to equate that with our response to Pearl Harbor. (Bomb).
Are you gonna go hunt him and beat him up in return? Are you going to hurt his family or the entire neighbourhood he lives in if you don't find him?
Yes, you psycho, you are absolutely supposed to stay withing reasonable boundaries aka the fukin law.