Why do liberals support Hamas?

@no1marauder said
Funny, that's the same logic Osama Bin Laden used to justify the mass murder of US civilians:

"You may then dispute that all the above does not justify aggression against civilians, for crimes they did not commit and offenses in which they did not partake:

(a) This argument contradicts your continuous repetition that America is the land of freedom, and its leaders i ...[text shortened]... ttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver

Good company you're keeping there, Rajk.

You are mistaken. Israel is not guilty of mass murder of Palestinian civilians at all. It is Hamas [and the likes of Osama Bin Laden] who target Jewish civilians wilfully and deliberately.

Hamas killed civilians [like it has been doing for decades]. Israel responds targeting Hamas which is the location where rockets are fired and instead schools, residential areas and hospitals are hit. Civilians are collateral damage. The Hamas pussies are hiding among civilians. The Jews and other decent people do not do that.

Then Israel imposes a seige on Gaza, and started bombing cities ... hopefully to flush out Hamas but the Palestinians are supporting Hamas. So this claim that Palestians do not support Hamas is rubbish and a blatant lie. Palestinians are supporting Hamas. If they are now without water, electricity, food etc, then thats their own damn fault. They have rockets though, Lots of rockets. Let them eat rockets. Hamas made sure they had lots of rockets to kill Jews. Food and water is not a proiorty. Palestinians are a failed people. They are stupid and they are not going to change. They will continue to support Hamas, who will continue to drag them down.

Rockets and weapons first, food and water second... Idiots

@rajk999 said
You are mistaken. Israel is not guilty of mass murder of Palestinian civilians at all. It is Hamas [and the likes of Osama Bin Laden] who target Jewish civilians wilfully and deliberately.

Hamas killed civilians [like it has been doing for decades]. Israel responds targeting Hamas which is the location where rockets are fired and instead schools, residential areas and hosp ...[text shortened]... , who will continue to drag them down.

Rockets and weapons first, food and water second... Idiots

Israel is mass bombing a tiny urban area which houses 2.3 million people knowing full well that the vast majority of its victims will be innocent civilians. This is a war crime and not the act of "decent people". See the articles I've cited regarding the "Dahiya Doctrine".

Furthermore, you just agreed with Osama Bin Laden; even IF the majority of Gazans were supportive of Hamas attacks on Israel, that no more justifies killing the civilians there then US actions aiding Israel's oppression of Palestinians justified 9/11 just because US voters supported those policies.

@no1marauder said
Funny, that's the same logic Osama Bin Laden used to justify the mass murder of US civilians:

"You may then dispute that all the above does not justify aggression against civilians, for crimes they did not commit and offenses in which they did not partake:

(a) This argument contradicts your continuous repetition that America is the land of freedom, and its leaders i ...[text shortened]... ttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver

Good company you're keeping there, Rajk.

you are a sorry person to support these religious fanatics…I bet you have hitler pictures hanging all around you bedroom dont you?

@no1marauder said
Israel is mass bombing a tiny urban area which houses 2.3 million people knowing full well that the vast majority of its victims will be innocent civilians. This is a war crime and not the act of "decent people". See the articles I've cited regarding the "Dahiya Doctrine".

Furthermore, you just agreed with Osama Bin Laden; even IF the majority of Gazans were supportive ...[text shortened]... Israel's oppression of Palestinians justified 9/11 just because US voters supported those policies.

Hamas targets innocent civilians. The Oct 7th attack was on innocent civilians who were totally unaware, kids singing and playing. The Palestinians knew that after Hamas attacked , the Jews would retaliate. They knew, and they were prepared. So they should have stocked up on water, food and supplies. Instead they stocked up on rockets ... Lol Rockets !!! They knew that Hamas have underground hideouts with weapons. They Know these things. Israel will target these. They know. But they are a bunch of idiots. 😆

@rajk999 said
Hamas targets innocent civilians. The Oct 7th attack was on innocent civilians who were totally unaware, kids singing and playing. The Palestinians knew that after Hamas attacked , the Jews would retaliate. They knew, and they were prepared. So they should have stocked up on water, food and supplies. Instead they stocked up on rockets ... Lol Rockets !!! They knew that ...[text shortened]... s. They Know these things. Israel will target these. They know. But they are a bunch of idiots. 😆

The attack mostly killed civilians but at least 309 members of the Israeli military were killed.https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/27/hamas-attack-israel-october-7-hostages/

That's almost certainly a higher percentage of military v. civilians in the Hamas attack than the IDF operations in the last few weeks.

Your assumption that the average Palestinian in Gaza could have done anything to prepare for such an onslaught is ridiculous. Your blind hate and simple minded bigotry causes you to make idiotic claims of this sort.

@no1marauder said
I've already shown proof that this narrative you keep spewing is BS and that most Palestinians would be overjoyed to have a peace settlement.

Your insistence to the contrary is based on wilful ignorance and your reliance on bigoted negative stereotypes.

Palestine no longer really even exists . It is the Land of Hamas where the sole intent is to establish sharia law and murder all the Jews . Would you really want a next door neighbor who is dedicated to murdering you and your family ?? Maybe you would , but then again you are a fool .

@mott-the-hoople said
you are a sorry person to support these religious fanatics…I bet you have hitler pictures hanging all around you bedroom dont you?

Says the right-wing, racist creep.

Jesus man, just look at your posts.

@caissad4 said
Palestine no longer really even exists . It is the Land of Hamas where the sole intent is to establish sharia law and murder all the Jews . Would you really want a next door neighbor who is dedicated to murdering you and your family ?? Maybe you would , but then again you are a fool .

Uh… the West Bank?
And why is Hamas in power?
What about the constantly growing number of illegal settlements?

Whst about the Israeli terror flights (which you’ve probably never even heard about)?

What about the return of 600.000 Palestinians who were forced to flee and still live in bloody refugee camps?

Seriously. You know nothing about the situation there, other than what you’ve been spoon fed by stupidity.

And yes. Hamas are utter bastards as well. Nobody is denying that. They don’t exist in a bloody vaccum though.

@shavixmir said
Uh… the West Bank?
And why is Hamas in power?
What about the constantly growing number of illegal settlements?

Whst about the Israeli terror flights (which you’ve probably never even heard about)?

What about the return of 600.000 Palestinians who were forced to flee and still live in bloody refugee camps?

Seriously. You know nothing about the situation there, oth ...[text shortened]... amas are utter bastards as well. Nobody is denying that. They don’t exist in a bloody vaccum though.

Hamas has control because they beat Arafat in an election . They are the rulers in that land you numbnut .

@caissad4 said
Hamas has control because they beat Arafat in an election . They are the rulers in that land you numbnut .

But why would, the generally secular Palestinians, vote for a group like Hamas?

Was it Hamas who invested in schools?
Was it Hamas that invested in playgrounds?
Was it Hamas that invested in after school activities?

Yup. Where the PLO failed, Hamas, on street level, filled the needed gaps.

That’s how they got into power.
There’s a lesson there.

And, by the way, Hamas as a religious entity is not so different from your Christian right in the US or the Jewish extremist right in Israel.

All the same fundamentalist nutjobs in different clothes.

@shavixmir said
But why would, the generally secular Palestinians, vote for a group like Hamas?

Was it Hamas who invested in schools?
Was it Hamas that invested in playgrounds?
Was it Hamas that invested in after school activities?

Yup. Where the PLO failed, Hamas, on street level, filled the needed gaps.

That’s how they got into power.
There’s a lesson there.

And, by the wa ...[text shortened]... r the Jewish extremist right in Israel.

All the same fundamentalist nutjobs in different clothes.

You're nearly there shag doody for brains, you're right, goobermint shouldn't be involved in 'schools', 'playgrounds' and 'school activities'. Hamas are following the lead of many other goobermints. They know to grab the young impressionable minds and begin shaping them;

1/ Hamas is good.
2/ None of this is possible without Hamas
3/ Bow, obey, serve Hamas

Now swap out Hamas for any other state mandated education system. There is child abuse going on and almost every goobermint education system indulges in it.

You're on the edge, you were there recently but I called you too many mean names and the blinders went on again.

@no1marauder said
Israel has no "rights"; individuals have rights, not nations.

As I have already stated, any attacks by Israel must conform to international law even if in "response" to a breach of IL. But Israel is in clear violation of the laws of war both by their use of the Dahiya Doctrine as well as their blockade of food, medicine and other essential supplies to the People of G ...[text shortened]... a "right" to respond to them with disproportionate force which is killing civilians at a high rate?

@no1marauder
Not bad, yes, individuals have rights, and individuals have the right to defend themselves, and individuals have the right to band together to pool their resources to defend themselves.

We may not agree on how they do it, but that is their right and I would go further and say it is an obligation if you want to live.

You must have some criteria in mind when you say 'disproportionate' (The inflated toll out of Hamas never distinguishes how many militants, you're supposed to count them all as innocent civilians)

Would you like to see Hamas have better weapons to make it more 'proportionate'. Is there some 'eye for an eye' formula you apply?

@wajoma said
You're nearly there shag doody for brains, you're right, goobermint shouldn't be involved in 'schools', 'playgrounds' and 'school activities'. Hamas are following the lead of many other goobermints. They know to grab the young impressionable minds and begin shaping them;

1/ Hamas is good.
2/ None of this is possible without Hamas
3/ Bow, obey, serve Hamas

Now swap ou ...[text shortened]... e edge, you were there recently but I called you too many mean names and the blinders went on again.

🥱🙄

Seriously. That is the thickest conclusion you have made yet.
Go back to the kangaroos.

@rajk999 said
Hamas targets innocent civilians. The Oct 7th attack was on innocent civilians who were totally unaware, kids singing and playing. The Palestinians knew that after Hamas attacked , the Jews would retaliate. They knew, and they were prepared. So they should have stocked up on water, food and supplies. Instead they stocked up on rockets ... Lol Rockets !!! They knew that ...[text shortened]... s. They Know these things. Israel will target these. They know. But they are a bunch of idiots. 😆

How is Israel going to target underground tunnels too deep for bunker buster bombs? Chemical weapons?

https://rumble.com/v3rfjrp-hamas-is-underground-so-why-is-israel-leveling-gaza-buildings.html

Is Israel going to use WMDs?

@metal-brain said
How is Israel going to target underground tunnels too deep for bunker buster bombs? Chemical weapons?

https://rumble.com/v3rfjrp-hamas-is-underground-so-why-is-israel-leveling-gaza-buildings.html

Is Israel going to use WMDs?

The tunnels are not too deep for bunker buster bombs.