The thing about 'Corona' is that it is unprecedented in our lifetimes in the west, and I think that to try to make political distinctions is a mistake. Any PM of any political persuasion is in an all but impossible 'damned if you do and damned if you don't' situation, and it's very easy to be wise after the event and say 'we should have done this...' I'm no supporter of Boris Johnson but my own personal take is that he hasn't done a bad job on the whole, others will of course disagree.
I will no doubt be vilified for saying this but we have to keep a sense of perspective. I was in Bali until three days ago, (and am now in 14 day quarantine in Sulawesi, waiting for symptoms...) and talking to an Indian friend, who pointed out that each wet season India suffers outbreaks of Malaria and Dengue which kill thousands each year, so what's all the fuss about...I'm not saying I agree, it's a hard thing to agree or disagree with, but it's a perspective.
By the by, reaction to the pandemic in Britain and I'm sure elsewhere has been predictably mixed. A lot of people are doing a lot of goodly works, whilst others are buying everything they can (toilet rolls included, I mean, what...??) so that other people don't have enough of things, which is not so goodly.
Anyway, the point is, it ain't political, in my ever so humble opinion.
@indonesia-phil saidWhat all the fuss is about? It has gone global that is what the fuss is about.
The thing about 'Corona' is that it is unprecedented in our lifetimes in the west, and I think that to try to make political distinctions is a mistake. Any PM of any political persuasion is in an all but impossible 'damned if you do and damned if you don't' situation, and it's very easy to be wise after the event and say 'we should have done this...' I'm no supporter o ...[text shortened]... , which is not so goodly.
Anyway, the point is, it ain't political, in my ever so humble opinion.
Good Luck to you and your family.
-VR
@petewxyz removed their quoted postI’m no expert on this but the phrase cyclical is often used to describe these inter generational hotspots of poverty, crime, and abuse. There must be an answer to it, targeted resources is probably one of them, people also talk about intervention but the trouble with “Family’ is that it can be the perfect harbour or the perfect storm or often both at one and the same time.
Certainly abandonment and indifference by the wider society is no answer but what the answers might be are way above my intellectual pay grade.
I’ve heard about social services along with local government focusing on problem families and I recently heard that it had some very good results but it is resource intensive and that would require real political will to tackle the problem on a uk wide scale. You only have to ‘look at the County Lines’ issue to see that sort of political will simply does not exist.
@kevcvs57 saidWhy do you assume there must be a solution?
I’m no expert on this but the phrase cyclical is often used to describe these inter generational hotspots of poverty, crime, and abuse. There must be an answer to it, targeted resources is probably one of them, people also talk about intervention but the trouble with “Family’ is that it can be the perfect harbour or the perfect storm or often both at one and the same time.
...[text shortened]... y have to ‘look at the County Lines’ issue to see that sort of political will simply does not exist.
@indonesia-phil saidIt isn't political anywhere that I can see except USA & Brazil. I'm perplexed as to
Anyway, the point is, it ain't political, in my ever so humble opinion.
why Trump supporters on here (as an example) have been denying how bad COVID-19
will be. What is it that makes them so anti-science and untrusting of experts?
@eladar saidBecause there always is a solution to social problems.
Why do you assume there must be a solution?
Human societies are human constructs if it’s dysfunctional you tweak it until it is functional. There may be no easy answer though and you have to really want solve the problem, but there always a solution.
@divegeester saidYou will never see reality with yours.
You’ll never get your head out of your ass with that attitude.
@kevcvs57 saidThere is always a solution? Tell me who has figured out the issue with generational poverty.
Because there always is a solution to social problems.
Human societies are human constructs if it’s dysfunctional you tweak it until it is functional. There may be no easy answer though and you have to really want solve the problem, but there always a solution.
@eladar saidIf you had read one of the earlier posts I mentioned that in the uk they have had some success with intensive interventionist measures working with problem families with a history of cyclical / inter generational poverty, generational poverty is much easier you just redistribute wealth from one generation to another, maybe through the taxation system or spending more on education than you do on pensions or vis versa depending on which generation is more heavily represented in the poverty figures. But again you have to want to do it and I’m guessing you don’t.
There is always a solution? Tell me who has figured out the issue with generational poverty.
@wolfgang59 saidThey don't care because they are either wealthy and able to pay medical and cleaning services to protect them or they are rural. Either way they feel safe and don't care what happens to inner city poor people. The more poor urban people die the fewer votes for the Democrats and less social services paid for by tax money. They are Social Darwinist sociopaths.
It isn't political anywhere that I can see except USA & Brazil. I'm perplexed as to
why Trump supporters on here (as an example) have been denying how bad COVID-19
will be. What is it that makes them so anti-science and untrusting of experts?
@AThousandYoung
How likely is it that an 18 year old minority child will actually get sick enough to be hospitalized?