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@divegeester
Don't think it will rise to an arrest though.
He shouldn't have handled that gun like that and that is clear but criminal?
Another issue.
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@Torunn saidHe's probably already paid enough in missed roles and whatnot. I don't think Baldwin meant to harm her, as Sonhouse says, I think he was fooling around and shot her. The guy who gave him the unchecked weapon should be held responsible, but the fact remains, he shouldn't have been fooling around with the gun, blanks or not.
Do you still think that Baldwin should be held responsible despite all these possible human errors?
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@divegeester saidAs I said, it has to be a special situation. They do try to limit the amount of live rounds to only the shots they need (say they have to have a shot of someone shooting bottles or something) and they are usually very careful about it. There weren't supposed to be live rounds on this particular set, so finding one there is concerning and points to lax security.
Why does there need to be live rounds on a movie set?
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@sonhouse saidEven blanks can give people who do not know any better a false sense of security. I remember a story about a well-known actor killing himself by holding a gun filled with blanks to his own head and the cotton wadding penetrated his temple and killed him. Can't remember his name.
@divegeester
That was the whole point, there is ZERO place for live ammo. Bu Baldwin thought it was a blank, there would be no motive in actually killing her and would have required a conspiracy if the idea was he had a bitch about that woman and wanted her dead, then more than one person would have had to be involved because if that was what happened in reality, and it mig ...[text shortened]... rounds fill a chamber, the blanks are way shorter and would be obvious even to an untrained person.
But yeah, the bottom line is that Baldwin shouldn't have been fooling around on set waving a gun around, even one with blanks. It's a good bet he won't be doing that any more in future.
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@divegeester saidAs I said, he was dicking around on set. All the Baldwin brothers are known for joking around on set with assistants and other actors. Apparently he was ignorant of the dangers of a blank gun, but he was several feet from her and figured it would not be completely unsafe. I don't think he meant to kill her. He may have character flaws, like all of us, but he's not a psychopath.
Why did he point the gun at her?
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@sonhouse saidHe pointed a gun at someone at shot them dead.
@divegeester
Don't think it will rise to an arrest though.
He shouldn't have handled that gun like that and that is clear but criminal?
Another issue.
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@Suzianne said“Dicks around” with a loaded gun, kills someone, finds out.
As I said, he was dicking around on set. All the Baldwin brothers are known for joking around on set with assistants and other actors. Apparently he was ignorant of the dangers of a blank gun, but he was several feet from her and figured it would not be completely unsafe. I don't think he meant to kill her. He may have character flaws, like all of us, but he's not a psychopath.
@Suzianne saidWhat evidence is there that he was “fooling around”?
But yeah, the bottom line is that Baldwin shouldn't have been fooling around on set waving a gun around, even one with blanks. It's a good bet he won't be doing that any more in future.
What evidence was there that he was “waving the gun around”
All that is known is that he pointed a gun loaded with a live round in it at someone, the gun discharged while he was pointing it and the bullet killed her.
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@divegeester saidSomewhere 18 months in prison has been mentioned. If it is agreed on "extreme irresponsibility causing accidental death" or something like that, then maybe 18 months punishment needs to be reconsidered.
What “special situation” would there be which would require live firearms ammunition on a movie set?
@divegeester
All true but the verdict is not up to us, it is up to the courts and the Jury if there is one.
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@sonhouse saidI’m not asking anyone to cast a verdict.
@divegeester
All true but the verdict is not up to us, it is up to the courts and the Jury if there is one.
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@Torunn saidMaybe, but my question to you was; what “special situation” would there be which would require live firearms ammunition on a movie set?
Somewhere 18 months in prison has been mentioned. If it is agreed on "extreme irresponsibility causing accidental death" or something like that, then maybe 18 months punishment needs to be reconsidered.
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@divegeester saidThe question was put to Suzianne. I merely shared my thought.
Maybe, but my question to you was; what “special situation” would there be which would require live firearms ammunition on a movie set?