Beaking the law

Originally posted by Moldy Crow
Mokko - I've been through two divorces with custodial issues in both .

Trust me on this - If you openly defy the court they will crush you . They DO NOT LIKE THAT . If you're going through the system but need more time , then be creative and stall for time . You have an hour or so . Fine , go to your sister's , or the store , or some damned place l ...[text shortened]... plausable excuse . But do not openly defy them . It will go badly for you , and your children .

Aye, stall for time.

Originally posted by mokko
And him naming a convicted pedophile (his own boss) as an appropriate person to pick up our child doesn't warrant concern.

He also has criminal charges against him right now for assault and death threats. He breached his bail conditions and is still walking free.

I'm not uncooperative at all and even offered more frequent 3 hour visit as opposed to 4 ...[text shortened]... ot about what's best for this little baby.

I'm in such a panic as the clock keeps ticking.

I am not saying you are uncooperative or your concerns are unfounded, I just say the court might see it differently, and that might lead to consequences far worse than your baby spending a weekend with her father, traumatic as that may be.

(See, Xanthos? )

Originally posted by mokko
This child has never been seperated from be in over a year. Her father is a very violent man. She's to be taken for 4 days out of town, 6 hours away on the most dangerous highway in Canada.

This man drives like a maniac not to mention the threats he has spoken concerning our daughter. She is nothng but a child support payment to him. He has tried to push ...[text shortened]...

If being a mother and looking out for my child is going to make me a criminal then so be it.

my mom used to say that about my dad. Like you its a historything, but she is really manipulative and a distorter of truth. She would bait and insult dad incessantly to try and make him assault her, we didnt know it at the time but she was having an affair and was trying to get us kids the house and an income from dad all in one,but she needed a reason and ammo to file for separation and make the process (the law) work for her inher favour.
He never once even touched her violently or approached her manacingly yet the stories she spun to everyone! and later the courts,talk about animagination......well cut this story short visitations were finally worked out after THREE YEARS but mum put us kids, dad and everyone involved through heart ache and despair.

I hope you let your child have the best fromboth of its parents without the anomosity, let it go.history between you and the father doesn't mean he will be a bad father, let it go!

Originally posted by adramforall
The words of the truly stupid. 🙄

The person who steals your car
The person who mugs your granny
The person who rapes your wife
The person who murders your child

All breaking the law but hell what does that matter

Laws are there to be broken.. Go for it

I didn't say it didn't matter.

All laws are broken at some stage, that was my point.

And if mokko thinks she needs to break the law then just because the law says not to shouldn't stop her, imo.
Let her do what she thinks is right and worry about the law later.

Originally posted by Moldy Crow
Mokko - I've been through two divorces with custodial issues in both .

Trust me on this - If you openly defy the court they will crush you . They DO NOT LIKE THAT . If you're going through the system but need more time , then be creative and stall for time . You have an hour or so . Fine , go to your sister's , or the store , or some damned place l ...[text shortened]... plausable excuse . But do not openly defy them . It will go badly for you , and your children .

You wouldn't believe the thoughts racing through my head. I'm even contemplating taking her down to the health nurse. Anything to try and stop this without losing the trust of the courts. I know it's obvious and transparent but I'm so desperate at this point.

Originally posted by XanthosNZ
How come when I say this it's being mean but when you say it, it's not?
Am I too abrasive?

PS. nessy, Hang ten ladyman

mate NOBODAYS interested in your comments, your just sad individual who's got nothing better to do with there time, but have a laugh at other people misfortunes.

Get a life buy a longboard and HANG 10 you'll be a better person for it!

Originally posted by jeannie7
my mom used to say that about my dad. Like you its a historything, but she is really manipulative and a distorter of truth. She would bait and insult dad incessantly to try and make him assault her, we didnt know it at the time but she was having an affair and was trying to get us kids the house and an income from dad all in one,but she needed a reason and ...[text shortened]... , let it go.history between you and the father doesn't mean he will be a bad father, let it go!

I'm very experienced in seperation and putting the kids needs first. My older two have always had their father in their lives and we have never had issues or disputes in front of our kids. This time around is different. I'm not dealing with a human being. I'm dealing with a maniac. I have never in my life used my children as weapons to serve some sort of twisted alterior motive. I'm truly sorry for what you have had to endure. No child deserves to be caught in the middle of any conflicts between parents.

Originally posted by mokko
And him naming a convicted pedophile (his own boss) as an appropriate person to pick up our child doesn't warrant concern.

He also has criminal charges against him right now for assault and death threats. He breached his bail conditions and is still walking free.

I'm not uncooperative at all and even offered more frequent 3 hour visit as opposed to 4 ...[text shortened]... ot about what's best for this little baby.

I'm in such a panic as the clock keeps ticking.

It warrants concern but I can't honestly see any guy allowing a convicted paediophile to pick up his children.

Charges mean nothing until proven.

So what if his family are paying his legal fees and aksing to see their grandchild. Nothing wrong with that.

You paint a really bad picture of this person and yet you chose to have a relationship and a child with them. Surely they have not all of a sudden "gone bad". The father, no matter how wrong you think it is is entitled to see his child and you preventing him from doing so will not help your case in the slightest.

Use your brain, not your motherly instinct.

Originally posted by mokko
You wouldn't believe the thoughts racing through my head. I'm even contemplating taking her down to the health nurse. Anything to try and stop this without losing the trust of the courts. I know it's obvious and transparent but I'm so desperate at this point.

trouble is you feel like your child can't be without you,give your baby's father some credit. Don't let yourpersonal history cloud your judgements.

My dad looked after us on his own for 16 years. Even though to this day mum runs him down and spews venom at him verbally he never runs her down or accussers her of wrongdoings yet she was the one who couldn't help herself having affair after affair and lying to everyone around how done byshe was.

Now dad is happily remarried and she is still going from one relationship to another.

Let your animosity go and let your child be loved andcared for from all of its extended families. Don't stuff up your kids life!

Originally posted by jeannie7
my mom used to say that about my dad. Like you its a historything, but she is really manipulative and a distorter of truth. She would bait and insult dad incessantly to try and make him assault her, we didnt know it at the time but she was having an affair and was trying to get us kids the house and an income from dad all in one,but she needed a reason and ...[text shortened]... , let it go.history between you and the father doesn't mean he will be a bad father, let it go!

I had that done to me.
It's quite a feeling to walk into a room full of your darling wife's friends, meeting them for the first time, and encountering hostility because of her lies. At the time I never knew a thing.

Originally posted by nessy
mate NOBODAYS interested in your comments, your just sad individual who's got nothing better to do with there time, but have a laugh at other people misfortunes.

Get a life buy a longboard and HANG 10 you'll be a better person for it!

With this as part of your description you appear to be quite a sad individual yourself wiyth nothing better to do with your time.

Quick games all day every day apart from the odd weekend... Nessy

OMG I have said something in defence of Xanthos 😉

Originally posted by Moldy Crow
Mokko - I've been through two divorces with custodial issues in both .

Trust me on this - If you openly defy the court they will crush you . They DO NOT LIKE THAT . If you're going through the system but need more time , then be creative and stall for time . You have an hour or so . Fine , go to your sister's , or the store , or some damned place l ...[text shortened]... plausable excuse . But do not openly defy them . It will go badly for you , and your children .

And if you do these things have the mods delete this thread so it cannot be used against you in court!! TheSkipper

Originally posted by mokko
I'm very experienced in seperation and putting the kids needs first. My older two have always had their father in their lives and we have never had issues or disputes in front of our kids. This time around is different. I'm not dealing with a human being. I'm dealing with a maniac. I have never in my life used my children as weapons to serve some sort of tw ...[text shortened]... ve had to endure. No child deserves to be caught in the middle of any conflicts between parents.

In one of our court appearances mum openly accused dad of molesting my two sisters and me, dad started tocry in court outof sheer bewilderment and hurt and then mum screamed something to the effect of ,"see,lookat him cry,he's weak, he can't handle stress, how could he look after the kids, he's not fit to be called a father!"

I implore you to let it go! for your childs sake.

Originally posted by TheSkipper
And if you do these things have the mods delete this thread so it cannot be used against you in court!! TheSkipper

What if someone already forwarded this thread to every custody court in Canada? Hypothetically.

Originally posted by XanthosNZ
What if someone already forwarded this thread to every custody court in Canada? Hypothetically.

Something is wrong with mokko's support group if it consists of strangers on the internet.
Isolation is a bad thing.