Originally posted by king cirefthats not true, you're aware the mind is clear but that is not a thought teling you, that is a state of being... you are aware the mind is clear just like you are still aware of the room you're in when the mind is clear.... these are not thoughts, but observations
if you cleared your mind..... once you realized your mind was clear that would be a thought .....what is the point of a clearing your mind?
meditation is a means of finding answers to questions and solutions to delemas..talking to god, healing ...introspection, reflection. all of which i find no reason to be silent....talk to me.
The notion that you can clear the mind is ludicrous. Thoughts are merely electrical impulses, and do not cease at any point in your life. So, I presume you mean your conscious mind as opposed to your subconscious which may continue seperately. In this regard the easiest way is to go to sleep.
If you are aiming at some 'state of being' to which you can enter upon divorcing your consciousness, you first need to presume that there exists such a thing as a 'Mind' notice the capital letter. I'm not yet convinced that Minds exist, as I have yet to see any evidence pointing towards them and away from minds being just bio-electric computers. As far as I can see seperating your consciousness is impossible without giving over to the sub-consicous and that's not a 'state of being' that's just dreaming, awake or otherwise.
Originally posted by StarrmanWrong. Your ad hoc reductionism is absurd and pointless.
The notion that you can clear the mind is ludicrous. Thoughts are merely electrical impulses, and do not cease at any point in your life. So, I presume you mean your conscious mind as opposed to your subconscious which may continue seperately. In this regard the easiest way is to go to sleep.
If you are aiming at some 'state of being' to which you c ...[text shortened]... b-consicous and that's not a 'state of being' that's just dreaming, awake or otherwise.
Originally posted by eldragonflyIt is neither absurd, nor pointless. Believing there is anything out there beyond the ether of consciousness is looking through rose-coloured glass. There's no evidence for it being any different from a dream state.
Wrong. Your ad hoc reductionism is absurd and pointless.
Originally posted by StarrmanHere here! I can make a solid argument that you are all just figments of my imagination using the psychological definition. Thought is a product of the brain, an electrical impulse, that is the fact of empyrical evidence. That being said, the mind, the conscienceness, this is at the forefront of science.
It is neither absurd, nor pointless. Believing there is anything out there beyond the ether of consciousness is looking through rose-coloured glass. There's no evidence for it being any different from a dream state.
Thoughts don't exist except in the mind. The mind exists in a series of electrical impulses, however the mind controls the body which is quite real, and it's thoughts are translated into action, therefor thoughts exist in the world through actions. But I digress, as far as cleaing the mind, you can in focus your thoughts, focus your mind, put things in perspective, etc, that is possible; but to think a thought is something that can be created and erased is a bit absurd.
Sorry about the steam of conscienceness, It's about 1 in the morning here.
