clear the mind

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Right! That's it! I'm alerting you for making me think of a pink elephant! 🙁

Originally posted by mikelom
Right! That's it! I'm alerting you for making me think of a pink elephant! 🙁

How about a pink elephant sitting on a chair?

Whilst I'm guilty of this myself, I'd like to know how so many people can make so many definitive statements in this thread about what the mind is and isn't capable of? Most psychologists agree that there is still vast amounts of knowledge that we need to acquire before we can grasp the complexities of the old gray matter, yet some people on here seem to know something we don't!?

Originally posted by Starrman
It is neither absurd, nor pointless. Believing there is anything out there beyond the ether of consciousness is looking through rose-coloured glass. There's no evidence for it being any different from a dream state.

Wrong. You shallow "firecracker" of an answer in fact isn't even worthy of comment, you are over/under-defining consciousness for starters. No one knows how the human brain works, especially the cerebral cortex, your electrical impulse mish-mosh analogy misses the mark.

Originally posted by eldragonfly
Wrong. You shallow "firecracker" of an answer in fact isn't even worthy of comment, you are over/under-defining consciousness for starters. No one knows how the human brain works, especially the cerebral cortex, your electrical impulse mish-mosh analogy misses the mark.

Lol, first of all, we may not know everything, but we know a long way from nothing about the brain, secondly what you're talking about isn't the brain it's the notion of Mind as some reified entity, and thirdly you're just replacing the unknown with an utterly unsupportable notion.

My answer is about as shallow as yours is grounded in the real. Way to go!

Now take it to debates, spanky.

Originally posted by eldragonfly
you are over/under-defining consciousness for starters.

Yeah Starrman! You're being too clear/not clear enough!

Nemesio

Originally posted by Nemesio
Yeah Starrman! You're being too clear/not clear enough!

Nemesio

I concur/object.

Originally posted by Nemesio
Yeah Starrman! You're being too clear/not clear enough!

Nemesio

I'm sorry/unapologetic.

Originally posted by Starrman
I'm sorry/unapologetic.

You're a genius / idiot.

What for you is a useful definition of 'mind'?

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
You're a genius / idiot.

What for you is a useful definition of 'mind'?

I guess as a synonym for 'consciousness' it works, how useful it is, I'm not sure. I tend towards trying to fnd the right word with the right definition, if I can. I'm not sure there's a concept that 'mind' could be applied to that isn't better explained by another word. You?

Originally posted by Starrman
As far as I can see seperating your consciousness is impossible without giving over to the sub-consicous and that's not a 'state of being' that's just dreaming, awake or otherwise.

Dreaming is a state of being.

Originally posted by Starrman
I guess as a synonym for 'consciousness' it works, how useful it is, I'm not sure. I tend towards trying to fnd the right word with the right definition, if I can. I'm not sure there's a concept that 'mind' could be applied to that isn't better explained by another word. You?

So the subconscious is not part of the mind? 😕

Originally posted by Palynka
Dreaming is a state of being.

He was trying to indicate it was something special, using 'state of being' as a turn of phrase for a higher level of something or other as yet undefined, as well you know.

Originally posted by Starrman
I guess as a synonym for 'consciousness' it works, how useful it is, I'm not sure. I tend towards trying to fnd the right word with the right definition, if I can. I'm not sure there's a concept that 'mind' could be applied to that isn't better explained by another word. You?

That which thinks, feels, wills, etc, is what I'd call 'mind'. I don't think merely being conscious is quite the same as thinking.

Originally posted by Palynka
So the subconscious is not part of the mind? 😕

That depends on how you define mind. If you're just saying the place where conscious and subconscious exist it's no different from brain. I was trying (perhaps unrealistically) to ascertain what differs mind from brain.