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09 Jan 06
Originally posted by Moldy CrowSure. You are just a human. You urinate and excrement in other animals food and water, you cause damage, you consume and polute... Don't be hypocrit, even when you feel so much superior.
Get a grip . It's frigging rat . They pee and crap in food , cause damage , and spread disease . I personally don't care if he bu-fu'ed it to death . It's just a rat .
09 Jan 06
Originally posted by AikoNothing hypocritical about taking full advantage of being an apex preditor . I'm at the top , the rat's at the bottom . I get to do whatever I want to him , and he's screwed . All I have to say to him is , "Welcome to the food chain , bitch" .
Sure. You are just a human. You urinate and excrement in other animals food and water, you cause damage, you consume and polute... Don't be hypocrit, even when you feel so much superior.
Life ain't fair , dude .
09 Jan 06
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I think it was a horrible irony that it happened to run into his house and burned it down. I have tossed the occasional mouse into my burnig barrel. Incedentally I also swat mosquito's on a regular basis. I don't see the problem with throwing a live mouse into a fire if you compare it to using glue traps that can keep them alive for days until they starve to death or they chew thier limbs off to get away. A nice hot fire seems to be more humane if you asked me.
Incedentally I just got back from a walk where my dog caught a squirrel out in a field and far from a tree. After a very brief chase and fight my dog brings back the squirrel...was I horrified?..NO, because that is his nature and I was brimming with pride. The crows applauded as well.
RTh
09 Jan 06
Originally posted by Moldy CrowI hate to let your ideas down but rats aren't at the bottom of the food chain belive it or not they don't get there energy from the sun.
Nothing hypocritical about taking full advantage of being an apex preditor . I'm at the top , the rat's at the bottom . I get to do whatever I want to him , and he's screwed . All I have to say to him is , "Welcome to the food chain , bitch" .
Life ain't fair , dude .
I can just imagine the people of easter island saying "yea we are better then trees so we can chop them down" and then after a while they all die out as there are no trees and so they have nothing to build shelters out of build boats out of burn for heat. They had some fucky statues though. Its that kind of mentality that means we have a chance of wiping ourselfs off the earth.
09 Jan 06
Originally posted by Will EverittSooner the better in most instances.
I hate to let your ideas down but rats aren't at the bottom of the food chain belive it or not they don't get there energy from the sun.
I can just imagine the people of easter island saying "yea we are better then trees so we can chop them down" and then after a while they all die out as there are no trees and so they have nothing to build shelters ...[text shortened]... gh. Its that kind of mentality that means we have a chance of wiping ourselfs off the earth.
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09 Jan 06
Originally posted by sasquatch672For the first time ever I completely agree with you!
So now you're saying that the moral requirements of humans are no higher than animals, who don't have a sense of right and wrong? Let's get this straight - I served in the military, where the things one sees and does may cause one to develop a sardonic, callous sense of humor about death. And I think in alot of cases I probably fit that description. ...[text shortened]... animal lives, because humans can fend for and defend themselves, and animals can't.
09 Jan 06
Originally posted by RingtailhunterYeah,that was nature and has nothing to do with throwing a live animal in a fire.
I just got back from a walk where my dog caught a squirrel out in a field and far from a tree. After a very brief chase and fight my dog brings back the squirrel...was I horrified?..NO, because that is his nature and I was brimming with pride.
RTh
09 Jan 06
Originally posted by sasquatch672I couldn't agree more.
So now you're saying that the moral requirements of humans are no higher than animals, who don't have a sense of right and wrong? Let's get this straight - I served in the military, where the things one sees and does may cause one to develop a sardonic, callous sense of humor about death. And I think in alot of cases I probably fit that description. ...[text shortened]... animal lives, because humans can fend for and defend themselves, and animals can't.
09 Jan 06
Originally posted by RavelloYou bet nature. A one of fine breeding. He's a purple ribbon hound UKC and I bought him specifically for his game drive and aggresion.
Yeah,that was nature and has nothing to do with throwing a live animal in a fire.
People talk about animals just doing what is natural for them. People are animals too and it is not even possible to do anything out of our nature, it is an endless quest of breeding of humans, just like dogs to breed and cull what is undesirable from our herd depending on the views of a society as a whole or maybe not so whole. I see no difference in eating a hamburger and throwing a mouse in a fire. Every time a person orders a hamburger they are signing a painful death for a cow.
Would it have been better if the man smashed the mouse with a hammer or drowned it? I don't see the difference.
RTh
09 Jan 06
Originally posted by RingtailhunterEating a hamburger has a point it is part of a tranfer of energy that is the way all animals get there energy. Throwing a mouse on a fire is a pointless violent sadistic way of killing something for no gain whereas killing a cow for food is near to essensial unless we became vegatarians (the world could support a higher population) but that cow is going into something useful unlike that mouse.
You bet nature. A one of fine breeding. He's a purple ribbon hound UKC and I bought him specifically for his game drive and aggresion.
People talk about animals just doing what is natural for them. People are animals too and it is not even possible to do anything out of our nature, it is an endless quest of breeding of humans, just like dogs to b ...[text shortened]... the man smashed the mouse with a hammer or drowned it? I don't see the difference.
RTh