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Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
I have a recommendation for you to quit smoking.

1. Buy a new pack.
2. Have a friend open it for you and select one or two cigarettes for "treatment".
3. Treatment will involve your friend sticking the filter end of the cigarette in his ass and returning it to the pack.
4. Play Russian Roulette with you ass funkified cigarettes.

Eventually you'll quit in disgust or get anal herpes of the face.
or develop an acquired taste.

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Originally posted by Seitse
Warning: Drinking and socializing become... well... weird.
Can you drink on Champix? You're not allowed to drink in the first few weeks of Zyban...

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This may be trite but the only way you're really going to quit is when you're really and truly ready to. It may take a try or two or five but if you're serious it will happen. Good luck.

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If you relapse because of the social element of it, that means nicotine is not the problem.

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Originally posted by darvlay
Can you drink on Champix? You're not allowed to drink in the first few weeks of Zyban...
Yes, you can drink. Actually, you have to smoke the first week on Champix and then, the 8th day in the morning: zip. Zero. Nada.

Take my word: you will not get anxious.

What I meant by weird drinking is that it feels so strange to booze and socialize without the cig in the hand.

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Originally posted by Palynka
If you relapse because of the social element of it, that means nicotine is not the problem.
So what is then?

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Originally posted by Seitse
Yes, you can drink. Actually, you have to smoke the first week on Champix and then, the 8th day in the morning: zip. Zero. Nada.

Take my word: you will not get anxious.

What I meant by weird drinking is that it feels so strange to booze and socialize without the cig in the hand.
Thanks for the info.

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Originally posted by darvlay
...of non-smoking.

This time I really mean it!
Best of luck!

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Originally posted by darvlay
So what is then?
It's you. You're weak and easily influenced by your peers. Surgical grafting of a new backbone might help.

You're welcome.

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Originally posted by Palynka
It's you. You're weak and easily influenced by your peers. Surgical grafting of a new backbone might help.

You're welcome.
Ouch!

It seems you've never heard of Darv's Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique.

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Originally posted by Palynka
It's you. You're weak and easily influenced by your peers. Surgical grafting of a new backbone might help.

You're welcome.
Guess I walked into that one. 😞

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Originally posted by darvlay
Guess I walked into that one. 😞
He's right though, I tried everything from patches to lozenges. Every time I went out with friends I capitulated. In the end it is unfortunately about will power and it's just as easy to forego a patch in preference for just one drag when you've had a beer or two. If you don't accept that your lack of willpower is the problem and work out how to overcome that, patches do't help.

For me, having Jack kicked my will power into a permanent higher gear, until then I was terrible at trying to break the habit.

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Originally posted by Great Big Stees
This may be trite but the only way you're really going to quit is when you're really and truly ready to. It may take a try or two or five but if you're serious it will happen. Good luck.
GBS, your empathy and motives are pure as driven snow. Your reality read, though, is pathetic. A man behaves like a man, admits his

shortcomings and does whatever needs to be done in private. Clever boys and professional clowns masturbate good intentions in public.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
professional clowns masturbate [b]good intentions in public.[/b]
Grampy Bobby, meet Grampy Bobby.

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Originally posted by Palynka
Grampy Bobby, meet Grampy Bobby.
Your "It's you. You're weak and easily influenced by your peers.

Surgical grafting of a new backbone might help."
= a ray of hope.

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