10 Mar 03
Originally posted by Bobla45I have no attraction to dictatorships.
It will be found that Iraq has terrorist ties to Al Queda. And by the way, just what is your attraction to dictatorships?
I just wish the people who want the war would not lie to us about their reasons. An attack on Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11. Iraq was not responsible for 9/11. The US and UK both have ties to Al-Qeada. Known members live in London. An attack on Iraq will not stop another 9/11.
10 Mar 03
Originally posted by VargI agree. In truth, is it not logical that our troops further invasion of the arab world would encourage terrorism unpon us? There is no moral logic to this war, it's going to occur despite the will of the US people, and it probably won't end there. Again, Democracy my ass! I am really beginning to think "we the people" is becoming "we the manipulated". I've never really been one for the conspiracys and all, but I feel like I'm living in a surreal world nowadays!
I have no attraction to dictatorships.
I just wish the people who want the war would not lie to us about their reasons. An attack on Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11. Iraq was not responsible for 9/11. The US and UK both have ties to Al-Qeada. Known members live in London. An attack on Iraq will not stop another 9/11.
10 Mar 03
Originally posted by VargSorry to be a pedant, but here are the definitions...
And Northern Ireland.
Britain is a political entity (including NI) and a geographical island (England Scotland and Wales). "The British Isles" includes the Republic of Ireland too. I think it was the Greeks who named them the British Isles so nothing to do with recent politics! 🙂
PS. I think the Greeks called them the Brittanic Isles, from Pre-tannic meaning before something or other...need to check up on that!
Great Britain = England + Wales + Scotland
United Kingdom = England + Wales + Scotland + Nortern Ireland
('United Kingdom' is actually the shortened version of 'United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'😉
British Isles = England + Wales + Scotland + Nortern Ireland + Republic of Ireland + other little islands.
10 Mar 03
Originally posted by Bobla45Wow, with that attitude you could work for the current administration. In the words of Bugs Bunny, 'what a maroon'.
Sorry I cant be around any more today for further discussions on this, have to go for a bit. One point to ponder: talk all you want, its a done deal. In a few days its time to see who talks the talk, and who walks the walk. Discuss all you want. Done deal.
10 Mar 03
Originally posted by Bobla45True, but the threat of terrorism is quite different to that of rogue states; you can't just round up all the known terrorists and say "There, that's terrorism dealt with." Although anti-Western terrorists are not sensible people who can be persuaded to be nice, their levels of recruitment are very much dependent on the impression people have of the West and principally the US and Israel. I shudder to think what would have happened if, in response to IRA attacks in Northern Ireland, but also on the mainland, we had started blowing up the houses of suspected IRA members in the style of the current Israeli government.
Sorry I cant be around any more today for further discussions on this, have to go for a bit. One point to ponder: talk all you want, its a done deal. In a few days its time to see who talks the talk, and who walks the walk. Discuss all you want. Done deal.
10 Mar 03
Originally posted by VargWhy even bother answering a question like that? People who ask those questions, those who assume supporting troops meaning supporting murder, they can't be reasoned with. Read his original post, it's a series of non-sequiters. It's like somebody took a bunch of right-wing bumper stickers, shuffled them, and posted.
I have no attraction to dictatorships.
I just wish the people who want the war would not lie to us about their reasons. An attack on Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11. Iraq was not responsible for 9/11. The US and UK both have ties to Al-Qeada. Known members live in London. An attack on Iraq will not stop another 9/11.
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Originally posted by bbarrYou know, you can take all your philosophy degrees and pack it. When this conflict is over theyre going to come up with more biological weapons and missles than any one imagined. And if I'm wrong I'm going to be the first to let you know. And when its shown I'm right I'm going to be the first to let you know. And when you refer to someone like me as one of "those people" remember that while you were in a philosophy class pondering if a tree fell in the woods and there was no one to hear it did it make a sound🙄 I and millions of Americans like myself were busy busting our butts in the workforce making this country the great place it is. Why even bother to answer one of "those" people? Boy does that sound like censure. Did they teach you that at What is the Meaning of Life Tech? Even a humble maroon in the non-sequiter mode can recognise youre a hypocrite.
Why even bother answering a question like that? People who ask those questions, those who assume supporting troops meaning supporting murder, they can't be reasoned with. Read his original post, it's a series of non-sequiters. It's like ...[text shortened]... bunch of right-wing bumper stickers, shuffled them, and posted.
Have a nice day, Bob
10 Mar 03
Originally posted by Bobla45Do you mean 'take all my philosophy degrees and pack them'? Perhaps more school would do you some good. Additionally you apparently don't know the meaning of the word 'censure' I said he needn't bother answering you, I didn't say you ought not to have been allowed to speak. The latter is censure, not the former. And listen up, chump: I worked my way through school, and I work two jobs now. So don't give me your bull about being in the workforce, because I am in the workforce, and the country still ain't great. It's not great for the poor, it's not great for the non-whites, and it's not great for the rest of the world. But they didn't teach you anything about what's right in The School of Hard Knocks, did they? You only know to do what you're told, trust in god and country, pass the ammunition.
You know, you can take all your philosophy degrees and pack it. When this conflict is over theyre going to come up with more biological weapons and missles than any one imagined. And if I'm wrong I'm going to be the first to let you know. And when its shown I'm right I'm going to be the first to let you know. And when you refer to someone like me as one ...[text shortened]... ble maroon in the non-sequiter mode can recognise youre a hypocrite.
Have a nice day, Bob
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10 Mar 03
Originally posted by Bobla45Yes I am afraid it is a done deal, if Bush was going to go alone (I think he will in the end - i.e. no British as Blair is getting weaker by the day over here and there is no 2nd UN resolution in sight) why did he not just do it from the start. Why just break the UN in the process. Maybe it can be argued that the UN is not the high and mighty power it could be (but would America ever let it be anyway) but it is better to have a UN than not.
Sorry I cant be around any more today for further discussions on this, have to go for a bit. One point to ponder: talk all you want, its a done deal. In a few days its time to see who talks the talk, and who walks the walk. Discuss all you want. Done deal.
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10 Mar 03
Originally posted by bbarrYou know, in the end, I suppose it really doesnt matter what you say, it is really all very boring. At least its refreshing to see a little fire in your belly as opposed to most of your dry "deep thinking" observations. You live in the country of greatest opportunity to go wherever you want to go, and achieve whatever you want to achieve, be you white, non-white, poor, blah blah blah. Your attempts to make your country sound like its the cradle of world oppression are typical of underachievers. Sure you can spell and define censure and non-sequiter, whoopie arent you a sharpie! I'm just quivering in the aura of your genius over here! Truth of the matter is sport, your type of thinking is whats breeding the decay of western society. Fortunately for western society, we're catchin onto your rhetoric in time.
Do you mean 'take all my philosophy degrees and pack them'? Perhaps more school would do you some good. Additionally you apparently don't know the meaning of the word 'censure' I said he needn't bother answering you, I didn't say you ought not to have been allowed to speak. The latter is censure, not the former. And listen up, chump: I worked my way ...[text shortened]... d they? You only know to do what you're told, trust in god and country, pass the ammunition.
Have a nice day,Bob
PS...Again, say what you want to until you turn blue. This is a done deal. Film at 11. See you in Bagdad