10 Mar 03
Originally posted by richjohnsoncheers, thas all i wanted to know really, ur right British, or UK or wateva, people do hate each other, Scotland has a seperate parliament to us, the english hate em anyway, according to most english (not me as i have welsh blood) the welsh are jus a bunch of useless sheepshaggers, and well N. Ireland has the IRA which is self explanatory, and english people hate other english people, us lot from lancashire hate those from yorkshire, and us northeners hate the southerners, and the whole of the UK hate the illegal immigrants and asylum seekers, as well as the french and germans, and we dont particularly like the americans either coz there so arrogant. but im not sayin this is the opinion of everyone, its just a generalised thing, its true for a majority of people in our nation. i think a lot of it can be blamed on footy!!!
So to answer the original question, Americans like the English just fine (although they maybe get confused about the British thing, as do some English people, apparently), but they dont like each other.
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Originally posted by Dan2106So all you are saying that all our past history leads to is hate - humans can't just get along and they will find any reason they can to fight - and that ties in nicely to the other discussion on war with Iraq. Another reason for someone else to hate the yanks and brits. And to be honest history doesn't lie - they hate us for a reason
cheers, thas all i wanted to know really, ur right British, or UK or wateva, people do hate each other, Scotland has a seperate parliament to us, the english hate em anyway, according to most english (not me as i have welsh blood) the welsh ...[text shortened]... ple in our nation. i think a lot of it can be blamed on footy!!!
Andrew
10 Mar 03
yup, weve had war with the scottish, french,germans, americans, yorkshire an lancashire, persecuted the welsh, the IRA is still at war with us, etc etc. thats life! history has a habit of comin back an teachin us the same ole lessons which we say we have learnt and then forget after five minutes! kind off a viscious circle aint it
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10 Mar 03
Originally posted by Dan2106technically this is not true, officially the IRA is no longer in active conflict against the British Government. But if you want to look at the importance of perspective which country provied the greatest financial support to the IRA and is now the champion of fighting global terror, terrorists from one point of view - freedom fighters from another.
...the IRA is still at war with us
Andrew
10 Mar 03
Originally posted by bbarrFrom a previous posting from bbarr:
Wow, with that attitude you could work for the current administration. In the words of Bugs Bunny, 'what a maroon'.
I can see from your posting that you're out of arguments. Don't worry, you were defending a morally bankrupt position; it's understandable that you have to resort to ad hominem attacks.
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Originally posted by britt2001bWhat can I say, I've been brought around? I've realized that I can either 1) present cogent arguments against the war for you to ignore, or 2) insult you directly. The first option is ineffectual and time-consuming, because I have to look up sources and construct arguments you either fail to understand or just don't read. The second option is just as ineffectual, but it makes me smile. So I've opted for the second option. If someone wants a rigorous debate on legitimacy (either political or moral) of the upcoming war, that would be great. But since those who support the Bush administration have heretofore been unwilling to engage in such a debate, I will just insult the warmongers.
From a previous posting from bbarr:
I can see from your posting that you're out of arguments. Don't worry, you were defending a morally bankrupt position; it's understandable that you have to resort to ad hominem attacks.
10 Mar 03
Originally posted by Bobla45If it's such a done deal, then why are you engaging in a debate about it?
Sorry I cant be around any more today for further discussions on this, have to go for a bit. One point to ponder: talk all you want, its a done deal. In a few days its time to see who talks the talk, and who walks the walk. Discuss all you want. Done deal.
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From bbarr:
"What can I say, I've been brought around? I've realized that I can either 1) present cogent arguments against the war for you to ignore, or 2) insult you directly......"
You forget your third option, 3) insult you by hiding behind Bugs Bunny.
11 Mar 03
Originally posted by rwingettYou're right, this isn't a debate, just mudslinging. And I've primarily been the one doing the slinging. I'm sorry britt2001 and Bobla45 for acting childish.
I briefly thought about contributing my two cents to this "debate", but it seemed like a complete waste of time. Instead I've included a link to an excellent article that seemed relevant to the discussion at hand:
http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/morford/
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Originally posted by bbarrive noticed that you have a trait of belittling /patronising anyone who offers a different opinion to yourself.You really ought to be more tolorent of our lesser intelligence!
You're right, this isn't a debate, just mudslinging. And I've primarily been the one doing the slinging. I'm sorry britt2001 and Bobla45 for acting childish.
peter (now in the firing line! )
11 Mar 03
Originally posted by peterhSee the apology above. In some cases what appears to be belittling or patronizing was not meant as such, I merely try to argue clearly and stay on point. In some cases I actually mean to belittle and patronize, because people spout off without having gone to the trouble of reading closely the posts in the thread. For this I'm not apologizing. In some cases, like in this thread, I get angry at what I take to be morally reprehensible positions. But my response to those positions was itself unjustified, it is for that that I'm sorry.
ive noticed that you have a trait of belittling /patronising anyone who offers a different opinion to yourself.You really ought to be more tolorent of our lesser intelligence!
peter (now in the firing line! )