03 Jun 09
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundyou think illiterate people are not ignorant?? well, I can see how it could be possible to educate people without using written media, but such a thing would be very unlikely. most illiterate people don't know much anything outside their daily routines.
You have enough knowledge to generalise about illiterate people?
03 Jun 09
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Originally posted by PalynkaI think he was trying to make a point out of how elamef left out the crucial info from her story, assuming we're all familiar with the history of australian racism. without knowing the context, it's just children taken off their parents on an island, no racism included.
I'm still trying to understand how one can know about the stolen generations and not see where racism plays a role in her story.
Perhaps you need to watch more TV series like Lost or Roots. There might be one about the Australian Aboriginals one day.
a bit nitpicky of course. but is it any different from alerting kunta kinte because of not knowing the context?
03 Jun 09
Originally posted by wormwoodBut they do watch TV.
you think illiterate people are not ignorant?? well, I can see how it could be possible to educate people without using written media, but such a thing would be very unlikely. most illiterate people don't know much anything outside their daily routines.
03 Jun 09
Originally posted by PalynkaI don't understand how her experiences of racism as a persecuted aboriginal led her to be offended by a tiny image of a black man in chains. Does she think the image promotes racism? Does she think that Sushill wants all black people to be locked up? There is just no logical explanation for her freaking out and running to admin in order to remove the image from the site. I am so tired of people crying racism at every little thing (on the internets, and in my life), and in this case it was a VERY little thing, and it was not racist at all. I haven't read the whole thread, has anyone actually attempted to state why the image can be perceived as racist? Only someone with a pre-existing racist mindset would see a black man in chains and jump to negative conclusions.
I'm still trying to understand how one can know about the stolen generations and not see where racism plays a role in her story.
Perhaps you need to watch more TV series like Lost or Roots. There might be one about the Australian Aboriginals one day.
03 Jun 09
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Originally posted by wormwoodNo dude, you're the one doing all the implying here, not me.
are you now implying they AREN'T ignorant BECAUSE they watch tv?
You started by extrapilating that because i considered lack of kowledge about a particular TV program did NOT make someone ignorant, that i thought people who read books were dummies. You then took a trip through the magic wardrobe, into Narnia, past the copy/paste the old forum post tree, and came out of the magical forest to the conclusion you are now coming out with.
edit....500th post 😛
03 Jun 09
Originally posted by hopscotchOutside of people saying its "offensive", there's been no specific explanation why it's "racist".
I don't understand how her experiences of racism as a persecuted aboriginal led her to be offended by a tiny image of a black man in chains. Does she think the image promotes racism? Does she think that Sushill wants all black people to be locked up? There is just no logical explanation for her freaking out and running to admin in order to remove the image ...[text shortened]... pre-existing racist mindset would see a black man in chains and jump to negative conclusions.
We have also learned that photos taken of Jews in Nazi camps are "anti-Semitic", however.
03 Jun 09
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Originally posted by hopscotchI can see how it can offend, despite not thinking Sushill is racist in any way. That's why I'm not crying "racist" and attacked Red Night who did.
I don't understand how her experiences of racism as a persecuted aboriginal led her to be offended by a tiny image of a black man in chains. Does she think the image promotes racism? Does she think that Sushill wants all black people to be locked up? There is just no logical explanation for her freaking out and running to admin in order to remove the image pre-existing racist mindset would see a black man in chains and jump to negative conclusions.
For some this is contradictory, but not to me. It's just that the picture doesn't carry a disclaimer about what it is and why he put it there.
03 Jun 09
Originally posted by hopscotchI believe I said, what I percieved racism to be. You asked. I believe I should inform you, that I found the pic in the avatar, racist in nature and offensive. That's all I will say. Why? Because, I will suggest to you, that you read through the thread. Please know, I do understand, you can say what you want. The questions, you ask of me, the questions you ask, making assumptions about me, keep asking them, keep asking, till you find you have no more questions to ask, I will, in my own time, answer them for you. Thanks 🙂
I don't understand how her experiences of racism as a persecuted aboriginal led her to be offended by a tiny image of a black man in chains. Does she think the image promotes racism? Does she think that Sushill wants all black people to be locked up? There is just no logical explanation for her freaking out and running to admin in order to remove the image ...[text shortened]... pre-existing racist mindset would see a black man in chains and jump to negative conclusions.
03 Jun 09
Originally posted by no1marauderYou've obviously not be reading my posts fully. I believe I said, why I found it racist in nature and offensive. Thanks 🙂
Outside of people saying its "offensive", there's been no specific explanation why it's "racist".
We have also learned that photos taken of Jews in Nazi camps are "anti-Semitic", however.
03 Jun 09
Originally posted by PalynkaGetting people to think is generally viewed as a good thing on a Forum. Only in the Red Nightian version of Forums should all thoughts be channeled into a narrow range of what is acceptable to Red Night. Nor should the Lowest Common Denominator of hypersensitive individuals be the standard for what is allowed here. To do so severely crimps the value of the Forums which are, after all, the main advantage that RHP has over other chess sites.
I can see how it can offend, despite not thinking Sushill is racist in any way.
For some this is contradictory, but not to me. It's just that the picture doesn't carry a disclaimer about what it is and why he put it there.