04 Aug 10
Originally posted by PinkFloydAppreciate your objectivity and honesty. Forget all about the USA for a moment. Try looking back at our lives and times
I'm still not recallin any group that has been blatantly repressed in this country, Bobby. Maybe I'm missing something big, which wouldn't be the first time! Or maybe it's just my geographical location--people here Iin my little corner of the world) just don't really give a flying F what a person's political, sexual, or religious leanings are.
in 2010 (on planet earth as well as in cyberspace) from 100 miles up and 100 years future from now. What do you see?
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05 Aug 10
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI see utter chaos. If space junk and spam and dead websites are bad now, the NEW vast wasteland hasn't even begun yet.
Appreciate your objectivity and honesty. Forget all about the USA for a moment. Try looking back at our lives and times
in 2010 (on planet earth as well as in cyberspace) from 100 miles up and 100 years future from now. What do you see?
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05 Aug 10
Originally posted by PinkFloydGreat perspective on the category of 'things'. What else do you see,
I see utter chaos. If space junk and spam and dead websites are bad now, the NEW vast wasteland hasn't even begun yet.
from the same vantage point, with respect to 'places' and 'people'?
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06 Aug 10
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyPlaces-- older and dirtier.
Great perspective on the category of 'things'. What else do you see,
from the same vantage point, with respect to 'places' and 'people'?
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People-- not much difference. I'd like to think people could reach a point where they would "come together as one" and act for the betterment of society, or to revolt against something terrible. But the longer I live, the more I think that Spanish guy was wrong--the "masses" will never "revolt"; we're just too apathetic to get off the couch. Might some day reach the point where society denies or rations health care, but even then, I don't see the people doing much to stop it.
07 Aug 10
Originally posted by PinkFloydAnother interesting reply. Your view of the crucial category of 'people', PF, seems primarily focused on macro social issues.
Places-- older and dirtier.
People-- not much difference. I'd like to think people could reach a point where they would "come together as one" and act for the betterment of society, or to revolt against something terrible. But the longer I live, the more I think that Spanish guy was wrong--the "masses" will never "revolt"; we're just too apathetic t ...[text shortened]... es or rations health care, but even then, I don't see the people doing much to stop it.
How about taking one more pass, from that same vantage, on inter/intrapersonal conduct and 'man's inhumanity to man'.
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07 Aug 10
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyThe dynamics will continue to have ups and downs. There will be some shift in the winners and losers, in an ongoing struggle centered on the control of resources. The importance of forming and belonging to an alliance (our kind) will remain the constant, and the vagaries of nature will force the dynamic pursuit and occasional, temporary possession of the more perfect union (alliance). More blather is available on request.
How pervasive is this negative dynamic in 2010? Is it likely to worsen? Any notable exceptions?
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10 Aug 10
Originally posted by JS357More blather requested, especially on inter/intrapersonal conduct and 'man's inhumanity to man'.
The dynamics will continue to have ups and downs. There will be some shift in the winners and losers, in an ongoing struggle centered on the control of resources. The importance of forming and belonging to an alliance (our kind) will remain the constant, and the vagaries of nature will force the dynamic pursuit and occasional, temporary possession of the more perfect union (alliance). More blather is available on request.
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31 Aug 10
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIf you mean the little things people do (random acts of kindness, I think is a popular term used nowadays), like everyone else, I notice them. I confess, I usually would NOT have noticed them had they not been pointed out to me by the local news network, 60 Minutes, a brief newspaper article, or a blurb on page 122 of the latest issue of "People" magazine.
Another interesting reply. Your view of the crucial category of 'people', PF, seems primarily focused on macro social issues.
How about taking one more pass, from that same vantage, on inter/intrapersonal conduct and 'man's inhumanity to man'.
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While I'm familiar with the term and concept of man's inhumanity to man, I don't believe it happens as egregiously (sp?) as others seem to. For one thing, I think that man is inherently good, not evil nor neutral. I think most people mind thier own business. Example: someone is stranded on Interstate Highway XX in the middle of the night. The car's battery is dead; the person has no cell phone. I believe that MOST people who pass this scenario will just keep going and not bother/harm the unfortunate driver. I think SOME people will actually offer to help in some way--they may not even stop, but they might call or use their CB radio to report the location of the person in distress. and a FEW of this group will help in a major way (stop, offer a ride, etc.). I would say that all the people in the above groups make up about 95% of the population. The rest---well, there's the "inhumanity" factor.
01 Sep 10
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Originally posted by PinkFloyd'Taking a breather...' Postcard #2
If you mean the little things people do (random acts of kindness, I think is a popular term used nowadays), like everyone else, I notice them. I confess, I usually would NOT have noticed them had they not been pointed out to me by the local news network, 60 Minutes, a brief newspaper article, or a blurb on page 122 of the latest issue of "People" magazi make up about 95% of the population. The rest---well, there's the "inhumanity" factor.
PF, if salt of the earth "people in the above groups make up about 95% of the population" to what source do we attribute the constant presence of social frictions and personal conflicts, jealousies and hatreds and pressures to conform; and what do we identify as the underlying root cause of premeditated crime and terrorism, ethnic cleansing and war?
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01 Sep 10
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWhere there's little love, there's less forgiveness. The world suffers under the law of diminishing return.
[b]Just imagine...
Just imagine what the world is coming to... it's mayhem. There are actually people out there now crazy enough to do something
different, something which is definitely not in step with our cadence. Banish them all and their families. They're not our kind.
Your sentiments?
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02 Sep 10
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI attribute it to evil. There is evil in the world, even though I believe we are basically good.
'Taking a breather...' Postcard #2
PF, if salt of the earth [b]"people in the above groups make up about 95% of the population" to what source do we attribute the constant presence of social frictions and personal conflicts, jealousies and hatreds and pressures to conform; and what do we identify as the underlying root cause of premeditated cri ...[text shortened]...
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