23 Jan 16
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (Page 59)Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (Page 60)
"Usage: Application of the term troll is subjective. Some readers may characterize a post as trolling, while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to the discussion, even if controversial. Like any pejorative term, it can be used as an ad hominem attack, suggesting a negative motivation.
As noted in an OS News art ...[text shortened]... family for good measure." (Bold mine / to be continued) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
"Origin and etymology: There are competing theories of where and when troll was first used in Internet slang, with numerous unattested accounts of BBS and UseNet origins in the early 1980s or before.
The English noun troll in the standard sense of ugly dwarf or giant dates to 1610 and comes from the Old Norse word troll meaning giant or demon. The word evokes the trolls of Scandinavian folklore and children's tales: antisocial, quarrelsome and slow-witted creatures which make life difficult for travellers.
In modern English usage, trolling may describe the fishing technique of slowly dragging a lure or baited hook from a moving boat whereas trawling describes the generally commercial act of dragging a fishing net. Early non-Internet slang use of trolling can be found in the military: by 1972 the term trolling for MiGs was documented in use by US Navy pilots in Vietnam. It referred to use of "...decoys, with the mission of drawing...fire away..."
The contemporary use of the term is alleged to have appeared on the Internet in the late 1980s,but the earliest known attestation according to the Oxford English Dictionary is in 1992. Another claim sets the origin in Usenet in the early 1990s as in the phrase "trolling for newbies", as used in alt.folklore.urban (AFU). Commonly, what is meant is a relatively gentle inside joke by veteran users, presenting questions or topics that had been so overdone that only a new user would respond to them earnestly. For example, a veteran of the group might make a post on the common misconception that glass flows over time. Long-time readers would both recognize the poster's name and know that the topic had been discussed a lot, but new subscribers to the group would not realize, and would thus respond. These types of trolls served as a practice to identify group insiders. This definition of trolling, considerably narrower than the modern understanding of the term, was considered a positive contribution. One of the most notorious AFU trollers, David Mikkelson, went on to create the urban folklore website Snopes.com.
By the late 1990s, alt.folklore.urban had such heavy traffic and participation that trolling of this sort was frowned upon. Others expanded the term to include the practice of playing a seriously misinformed or deluded user, even in newsgroups where one was not a regular; these were often attempts at humor rather than provocation. In such contexts, the noun troll usually referred to an act of trolling—or to the resulting discussion—rather than to the author." (Bold mine / to be continued) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo let's be clear; you have been calling me a "son of satan" thoughout 2015, you have spent a lot of posts subsequently justifying the claim and defending it. Now you are saying it's all a joke; why is that? What would you peers and leaders at your local JW Kingsom Hall think of one of their self proclaimed "ministers of God" calling people the progeny of a demon and then claiming they were trying to somehow be funny?
Dude you are too negative and heavy for me, sorry, comeback when you are feeling better or have something positive to say about anything.
You have also accused my of having the character of a murderer; was that a joke too?
What about when you said I was as bad as the perpetrators of 19th century black lynchings in America; was that a joke too? Was it a joke when you linked the claim to a website describing the crimes?
You are certainly fully of twisted nastiness. All we are is two blokes who argue on the Internet and your stock defence is insults of the most horrible nature.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyHaven't you copy pasted this exact same wall of text numerous times before?
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (Page 60)
[b]"Origin and etymology: There are competing theories of where and when troll was first used in Internet slang, with numerous unattested accounts of BBS and UseNet origins in the early 1980s or before.
The English noun troll in the standard sense of ugly dwarf or giant dates to 1610 and comes f ...[text shortened]... than to the author." (Bold mine / to be continued) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll[/b]
Originally posted by FMFIt beats making up a bunch of crap about other people's motivations.
It's interesting to note how often you say something along these lines when you haven't actually got anything to say about the post you're replying to.
And remember, just because you say something doesn't make it automatically true nor can you expect people to believe it just because you say it.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieLots of words, but unfortunately you have no idea what you are talking about. Neither does Grampy Bobby. I saw his comments as was made to feel sick in my stomach.
Seeing suicide as cowardly is perhaps a little more difficult to explain. Who knows what inner turmoil drives a person to take his or her own life, there may be numerous motivating factors. However a definition of cowardly is unprincipled* and Bobs may simply have been alluding to the fact that to him suicide is an unprincipled act.
Originally posted by VelnsA problem with the internet is that it is made up of people with differing standards, morals and tolerances. If your tolerance for the opinions of others is so low that you get physically sick, perhaps you need to find another hobby.
[b]Seeing suicide as cowardly is perhaps a little more difficult to explain. Who knows what inner turmoil drives a person to take his or her own life, there may be numerous motivating factors. However a definition of cowardly is unprincipled* and Bobs may simply have been alluding to the fact that to him suicide is an unprincipled act.
Lots of words, b ...[text shortened]... ing about. Neither does Grampy Bobby. I saw his comments as was made to feel sick in my stomach.[/b]
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Originally posted by SuziannePosts and threads are not removed because people get offended, they are removed because they break the terms of service and are deemed unfit to remain on the site. While Grampy Bobby's posts were deeply offensive, they were removed primarily because he had broken the terms of service,not because I alerted them. I would have thought someone with you length of membership here would have realised this.
Good luck with that on an internet where people get 'offended' no matter what you post.
Originally posted by SuzianneAnother basically meaningless 'point' that indicates a lack of anything telling to say about what is being discussed.
And remember, just because you say something doesn't make it automatically true nor can you expect people to believe it just because you say it.
23 Jan 16
Here's a quote child anon would have loved if he hadn't been assigned to another internet website with Vivian {aka V/8) and his Mum:
“Childishness and childlikeness are two very different things. To know a childlike person, is to know a very mature person; to know a childish person, is to know a very immature person. To know childlikeness is to know original wisdom; to know childishness is to know original error. And there are many children more mature than adults, many adults less mature than children.” ―C. JoyBell C.
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Originally posted by SuzianneThat's rich coming from you suzianne! All you do is complain about the posts of people you don't like. Perhaps you should have more tolerance?
A problem with the internet is that it is made up of people with differing standards, morals and tolerances. If your tolerance for the opinions of others is so low that you get physically sick, perhaps you need to find another hobby.
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWhy are you having swipe at someone who you think is being childish and pretending it is your computer mouse saying it? Are you aware of how odd you come across?
Here's a quote child anon would have loved if he hadn't been assigned to another internet website with Vivian {aka V/8) and his Mum:
“Childishness and childlikeness are two very different things. To know a childlike person, is to know a very mature person; to know a childish person, is to know a very immature person. To know childlikeness is to know ...[text shortened]... re many children more mature than adults, many adults less mature than children.” ―C. JoyBell C.