29 Mar 07
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Originally posted by Ponderable1st time I hear about that.
Isn't it there most security concerns are coming from???
Been doing net porn for more than a decade and everything is tiptop so far.
Peace,
-Seitse-
Clan 24665
29 Mar 07
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Originally posted by Seitseyeah but, Sietse, accessing a pron site using microsoft is much harder (harder! haha!) than meerly running one. 😉
1st time I hear about that.
Been doing net porn for more than a decade and everything is tiptop so far.
Peace,
-Seitse-
Clan 24665
29 Mar 07
It's not Microsoft's fault that they make a decent client OS and great productivity software (which is now being copied by the opensource communtiy - not that I care, but just to get the balance back in this thread).
It's also not Microsoft's fault that you are so reliant on them now, but the apes in the IT department, or the lazy buggers (mostly one-man band 'IT specialists'😉 who help set up small oiffices.
I've been phasing my clients off MS products for ages now. Most won't use anything except MS OSs and many only use Office (because let's face it - nothing comes close to the Office suite if you're running Windows native), but the rest of the software can be subbed with free and opensourse alternatives.
29 Mar 07
Originally posted by adam warlockMight work for big companies but my office has three people in it. How can we spare them to get trained during working hours and continue to function as a company? The answer is we can't, which only leaves the option of training outside working hours, which isn't exactly cost effective, not to mention intrusive on our employees...
What about giving the employes some courses on it for two months before changing? It would cost a little bit but then it'll pay off big time. I think that's how they done it.
If you want a company that lasts for a long time I think that makes some sense.
29 Mar 07
This rant sounds alot like me when Win95 came out and everyone had to go buy a new PC just to run it properly and even then it kept crapping out.
In the end, MS provide an OS for the masses, it has created an environment where anybody can run the basics. If you don't like their products (which I understand completely) you only have one choice - suck it up and take the plunge into linux regardless of the initial pain.
29 Mar 07
Originally posted by MarinkatombOk, so continue to use M$'s stuff but steal it instead of paying for it.
Might work for big companies but my office has three people in it. How can we spare them to get trained during working hours and continue to function as a company? The answer is we can't, which only leaves the option of training outside working hours, which isn't exactly cost effective, not to mention intrusive on our employees...
29 Mar 07
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Originally posted by Seitsejust rememebered something-IE is crud!
1st time I hear about that.
Been doing net porn for more than a decade and everything is tiptop so far.
Peace,
-Seitse-
Clan 24665
okay, so perhaps that was a bit harsh. what i actually meant was that IE is crud if run on windows. don't get me wrong, i cannot fault IE for the apple macs. but IE on windows? c'mon people! i mean, other than the much-publisised security problems, the programmers seem to have forgotten about any internet standards whatsoever. but curiously enough, everything works perfectly for the mac. although i believe that the IE for the mac has now been discontinued?
29 Mar 07
Originally posted by CrowleyThey do make some ok applications. Office, on the whole is not a bad product. But how much does it cost? My company has shelled out over £1000 over the last 10 years covering upgrades and licences. They produce they're software so that it is incompatible with EVERYthing else, thus taking full advantage of their status as 'the standard'. Now i look at this money and think 'am i getting value for my money'. How useful are the MS applications compaired to their rivals? No better, no worse is my conclusion, but somewhere along the line they've swindled £1000 out of my company (which as i said before is very small, i dread to think how much they make out of corporations with hundreds of staff...)
It's not Microsoft's fault that they make a decent client OS and great productivity software (which is now being copied by the opensource communtiy - not that I care, but just to get the balance back in this thread).
It's also not Microsoft's fault that you are so reliant on them now, but the apes in the IT department, or the lazy buggers (mostly one-man b ...[text shortened]... ve), but the rest of the software can be subbed with free and opensourse alternatives.
They're crooks!
29 Mar 07
Originally posted by st00p1dfac3Oh i want to. I REALLY want to. I have enough motivation to take that step now, no worries. It's not my shout though. I have to change everyone elses machine too. I'd become an IT consultant instead of what doing what i'm paid to do....
suck it up and take the plunge into linux regardless of the initial pain.
29 Mar 07
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Originally posted by MarinkatombBe creative, damn it, and stop whining.
Might work for big companies but my office has three people in it. How can we spare them to get trained during working hours and continue to function as a company? The answer is we can't, which only leaves the option of training outside working hours, which isn't exactly cost effective, not to mention intrusive on our employees...
Look into the tax angle for training, maybe.
29 Mar 07
Originally posted by MarinkatombThen I guess you really are with your hands tied.
Might work for big companies but my office has three people in it. How can we spare them to get trained during working hours and continue to function as a company? The answer is we can't, which only leaves the option of training outside working hours, which isn't exactly cost effective, not to mention intrusive on our employees...
29 Mar 07
Originally posted by Marinkatombhttp://www.apple.com/
How is it ethical for Microsoft update to change my default browser to IE instead of Firefox? HOW is it ethical for Microsoft Update to put an MSN login screen into my computers Start up routine?
If i wanted these settings, I WOULD SET THEM MYSELF!!!!
I've gotta get out. I have to release myself from the meddlings of these bafoons! I have really ha ...[text shortened]... his company has become a monster and i've had enough of them meddling with [b]MY computer![/b]
29 Mar 07
Originally posted by MarinkatombAll tax deductible and only averaging out at about £2 per week. 🙄
My company has shelled out over £1000 over the last 10 years covering upgrades and licences.
I am quite sure that you could find someway to increase the charges to your clients to cover this massive weekly outlay.
If you charge out say 2000 hours of time per year and you need to recover an extra £100 then you only need to increase your charge out rate by 5p to cover the extra costs.
Stop moaning and make the change.
29 Mar 07
Originally posted by MarinkatombEh? Yes, they are 'the standard' because they SET the standards when it comes to office productivity software.
They produce they're software so that it is incompatible with EVERYthing else, thus taking full advantage of their status as 'the standard'.
Why should the onus fall on MS to worry about compatibilty?