Moon Landing 40 Years Today

Originally posted by lausey
Moon hoax conspiracy theorists never fail to entertain.

I agree. In 1969, at the height of the Cold War, there's no way the Russians would have allowed the U.S. to claim they'd been to the moon without challenging it unless they knew it to be true.

Originally posted by AttilaTheHorn
I agree. In 1969, at the height of the Cold War, there's no way the Russians would have allowed the U.S. to claim they'd been to the moon without challenging it unless they knew it to be true.

That is a very good point, but don't you find it rather odd that they have never went back to the moon not even once in 40 years?

Originally posted by utherpendragon
on a episode of "myth busters" they went after all the myths around the moon landing. the waving flag was one of them and they able to prove it would move under those conditions.
Its a good show( Dont know if you have seen it)and they are quite thorough.

They were paid a LOT of money by NASA to 'prove' what they did. The CIA was in on it.

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Originally posted by AttilaTheHorn
I agree. In 1969, at the height of the Cold War, there's no way the Russians would have allowed the U.S. to claim they'd been to the moon without challenging it unless they knew it to be true.

This thought always struck me as well.

And we would have to fool the russians an additional 6, 7, 8 times.

Originally posted by AttilaTheHorn
I agree. In 1969, at the height of the Cold War, there's no way the Russians would have allowed the U.S. to claim they'd been to the moon without challenging it unless they knew it to be true.

Actually, a friend of my neighbor's uncle worked for the FBI and a perfectly timed weather balloon was sent towards the moon exactly when the Russians would have seen the rocket.

As you now know, the ruse was flawless.

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Originally posted by Very Rusty
That is a very good point, but don't you find it rather odd that they have never went back to the moon not even once in 40 years?

They did. Six manned missions successfully landed on the moon:

Apollo 11 - Jul 20, 1969
Apollo 12 - Nov 14, 1969
Apollo 14 - Jan 30, 1971
Apollo 15 - Jul 26, 1971
Apollo 16 - Apr 16, 1972
Apollo 17 - Dec 7, 1972

Originally posted by Phlabibit
They were paid a LOT of money by NASA to 'prove' what they did. The CIA was in on it.

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I heard that the money came from the illuminati as was funnelled throught the masons.

Originally posted by AttilaTheHorn
I agree. In 1969, at the height of the Cold War, there's no way the Russians would have allowed the U.S. to claim they'd been to the moon without challenging it unless they knew it to be true.

In fact it's kinda funny they didn't cry foul anyway, even if they *did* know it was for real.

Originally posted by Phlabibit
Actually, a friend of my neighbor's uncle worked for the FBI and a perfectly timed weather balloon was sent towards the moon exactly when the Russians would have seen the rocket.

As you now know, the ruse was flawless.

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and they would've gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids!

Originally posted by lausey
Moon hoax conspiracy theorists never fail to entertain.

They are a combination of funny and aggravating. Every bit of "evidence" they claim shows a hoax is immediately debunked and disproven, usually with the most casual of observations, yet no matter how many times it is patiently explained to them, they continue repeating them as if they never heard the rebuttal.

The "waving flag" is a perfect example. Over and over and over and over, but new moon hoaxtards keep bringing it up as if they just discovered it. In the original news broadcasts it was thought to be cool at the time, "look, the flag looks like it's waving!"....then the announcer would go over the physics behind it.

But some people just....never....get the word.

Originally posted by Red Night
I heard that the money came from the illuminati as was funnelled throught the masons.

All those things concern me. Should concern you too.

Message me.

Originally posted by murrow
In fact it's kinda funny they didn't cry foul anyway, even if they *did* know it was for real.

there wasn't much reason, as they were first at pretty much everything already:

the soviet space score:

first in space
first satellite
first living thing in space
first man in space and orbit of course
first woman in space
first multiperson mission in space
first eva

first probe on moon
first soft landing on moon
first tv-broadcast from moon



the US space score:

first manned mission to moon.
first docking in space (the soviets did first 'real' docking though, with exchange of crew).

there's the nice shuttle program as well of course. but I'm not sure about its historical importance as a milestone though, as it seems all other countries manage perfectly fine without anything similar. there doesn't seem to be need for it? (I guess that might also explain why the shuttles are still ancient tech from the 70s. there never was a new generation of shuttles.)


although more interesting than the crushing success of the soviet space program, was that their technology actually worked, where as the american tended to malfunction. (not quite what the american movie reality would like you believe, is it?) it wasn't until a couple of years ago until americans worked out a functioning waste recycling system for example, where as the soviets had a reliable system for decades (the one used on skylab etc). and I'm not sure about it, but my understanding is that the soviets also did everything with a fraction of the cost & resources compared to US.

so why didn't the soviets send humans to moon then? well, there were two main reasons: they didn't think it was safe enough, and robotic probes were much cheaper and just as good. americans didn't have the same problem risking lives, and as we know it was about 50/50 chance the moon crew would come back alive. (I'm sure though they would've loved being first on that too, but you can't win 'em all...)


final tally:

soviets 10 pts
americans 2½.

gg!

Originally posted by wormwood
there wasn't much reason, as they were first at pretty much everything already:

the soviet space score:

first in space
first satellite
first living thing in space
first man in space and orbit of course
first woman in space
first multiperson mission in space
first eva

first probe on moon
first soft landing on moon
first tv-broadcast from moo ...[text shortened]... u can't win 'em all...)


final tally:

soviets 10 pts
americans 2½.

gg!

First man to moon = checkmate.

Count up all the points you want, they still lost the game.

Originally posted by Sam The Sham
First man to moon = checkmate.

Count up all the points you want, they still lost the game.

sure they did, just like they 'lost' the cuban missile crisis. 🙄

Originally posted by Phlabibit
Actually, a friend of my neighbor's uncle worked for the FBI and a perfectly timed weather balloon was sent towards the moon exactly when the Russians would have seen the rocket.

As you now know, the ruse was flawless.

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>I think that's nonsense, not necessarily about some weather balloon which in itself it kind of silly, but about fooling the Russians. The Russians were quite capable of tracking Apollo 11 all the way to the moon, and they surely did. So they knew without any doubt that the U.S. landed on the moon, which is why they never challenged it.
>Similarily, if there was no moon landing, where did all those moon rocks come from? They came from the moon, that's where. As a prominent scientist said on TV last night (I don't remember his name), "Anyone who doubts that there was a moon landing is a fool."