16 Feb 04
Originally posted by ianpickeringWe thought that was so cool we copied it from the yanks for our constitution.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Does this still apply today as a justification in allowing so many Americans to own guns?
But - there was a typo.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and arm bears shall not be infringed.
Not only are we stuck with cracked conservatives who insist on their rights to keep bears, but they will keep giving them AK-47s.
16 Feb 04
Originally posted by steerpikeLOL, *cough* *splutter* 😀
We thought that was so cool we copied it from the yanks for our constitution.
But - there was a typo.
[b]A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and arm bears shall not be infringed.
Not only are we stuck with cracked conservatives who insist on their rights to keep bears, but they will keep giving them AK-47s.
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16 Feb 04
Originally posted by ianpickeringIf you lived in the States would you have a gun?
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Does this still apply today as a justification in allowing so many Americans to own guns?
16 Feb 04
Originally posted by PaulieI live in the states and own several. Some have been handed down through my Father's family for almost 200 years. The "right to bear arms" carries a very huge responsibility though. Tougher purchase laws are needed, but that won't stop the criminal. Don't know if there is an easy answer.
If you lived in the States would you have a gun?
Regards,
Charlie
16 Feb 04
I used to have a .357 Magnum with a 6-inch barrel. I used it to target shoot with a friend.
Got a license first, and went to go pick out a small .38. The guy at the counter talked me into the .357 since they take the same ammo. I got a box of .38 shells, and the gun came with 6 rounds of the Magnums.
I shot all 50 rounds and decided to shoot the 6 Magnums after the .38's were all gone. BANG! BANG!!!!! Wooooooo! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Woooooooo!
I never got .38 shells again; the Magnums were twice as powerful and made shooting that much more fun.
There are places in the states where you might need a gun for protection, but not where I am from.
Your chances of getting shot with a gun are greatly increased when you own a gun. I sold mine several years ago, but I don't want anyone taking my right to go get another if I so desire.
P-
16 Feb 04
Originally posted by chaswrayThere is no easy way. Unfortunately even in England it`s easy to buy guns. Obviously not at the sporting goods store but 😉 from a man who knows a man etc. If the laws got too tight in the States i think it would just go underground. Same old problem. it`s not the gun but the potential idiot that`s holding it.
I live in the states and own several. Some have been handed down through my Father's family for almost 200 years. The "right to bear arms" carries a very huge responsibility though. Tougher purchase laws are needed, but that won't stop the criminal. Don't know if there is an easy answer.
Regards,
Charlie
16 Feb 04
Originally posted by PaulieI agree about the "idiot owner" 100%. Even education won't help there. I was shown at a very early age what damage a gun can do and it left an impression! Interesting, what you say about guns in England Paulie. Here in the states the anti-gun crowd is always holding up England as their role model! Tell me more!
There is no easy way. Unfortunately even in England it`s easy to buy guns. Obviously not at the sporting goods store but 😉 from a man who knows a man etc. If the laws got too tight in the States i think it would just go underground. Same old problem. it`s not the gun but the potential idiot that`s holding it.
Regards,
Charlie
16 Feb 04
Originally posted by chaswrayCheck out google. Type in "gun crime in england" 😕
I agree about the "idiot owner" 100%. Even education won't help there. I was shown at a very early age what damage a gun can do and it left an impression! Interesting, what you say about guns in England Paulie. Here in the states the anti-gun crowd is always holding up England as their role model! Tell me more!
Regards,
Charlie
16 Feb 04
Originally posted by eyeqpcNot quite what happened in the Martin case. There were 2 teenagers breaking into his house (not a gang of thugs). He shot one several times when he was trying to get out of his window. He then left the injured teenager there, bleeding, and went back to his bed. At no point did he phone the police.
I don't think it works here in England, there has been cases of the "victim" getting convicted, like that farmer guy Todd Martin (no he's a tennis player) Mr Martin who shot an intruder when a bunch of thugs broke into his home.
-Robbo
He's served his sentence and subsequently been arrested for other offences. Hardly the victim.