22 Feb 04
Well I own handguns and will continue to own them no matter what some Brit or any other nationality thinks otherwise. If someone breaks into my home, I will defend my home. If that means killing the SOB so be it. I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6. "God" "Guns" and "Guts" made America great.ðŸ˜
22 Feb 04
Originally posted by slimjimI didn't know God supported slavery and the genocidal campaign against the Native Americans. Surely you're right that guns helped make America what it is (along with the whip and blankets infected with small-pox), for better or worse.
"God" "Guns" and "Guts" made America great.
22 Feb 04
Originally posted by bbarrWhat has gun ownership rights have to do with slavery? If you think I approve of slavery then you are sadly misstaken. In fact me owning guns will insure that I will never submit to slavery. As for the Indian's well, I'm sure they killed other members of other tribes. History has a long list of atrocities. What do you want to do? Sue Mongolia for what Ghengis Khan did. How about the Vikings, Romans, Goths or the multitude of other conquerors. It is a sad fact that weakness is always pounced upon by a stronger people. I wish the world would someday be a peaceful place but, until that day comes the world is still full of mean evil people who will try to harm you. As for the Indians, I was born here so this is as much of my country as theirs. Since I'm haif Italian maybe I should sue the ancestors of Attila the Hun for what they did to my ancestors. Heck I should sue England for sending my Dad's family over here also. Sounds rather ludicrous when you think about it, doesn't it.
I didn't know God supported slavery and the genocidal campaign against the Native Americans. Surely you're right that guns helped make America what it is (along with the whip and blankets infected with small-pox), for better or worse.
22 Feb 04
Originally posted by flexmoreYes I believe in God.
"God" "Guns" and "Guts" ?
i hope are you being sarcastic.
(otherwise you sound like some kind of militant religious extremist)
Yes I believe in legal gun ownership.
Yes I believe in having the guts to defend my home.
No I am not being sarcastic.
How does that make me a religious extremist? Or is that some word you throw at when you disagree with the person. Would you defend your home? You Liberal's really crack me up with your accusations. If a person is patriotic he is a war monger. If he is for tougher punishment and the death penalty for people who do heinous crimes then he is a killer. What is it with you Aussie's and Brits? Are you mad that your government took your right to defend your home by taking away your handguns? If you don't want a handgun here in the US you don't have to buy one. If you are so afraid of handguns then keep your behind in Australia and quit worrying about us poor yanks. We don't need a keeper.🙂
22 Feb 04
widely available heroin in one country is inevitably smuggled out to those countries not wanting it.
similarly with guns.
you and your friends want to shoot each other, so you will. but what about the rest of us? you are arming criminals around the globe.
(yes, yes if you didn't do it then someone else would - the heroin dealers think the same)
22 Feb 04
Originally posted by slimjimEver wondered why you need a gun? Take a look around a society that means (in your eyes) that you need one and weep. You think I'm mad that I'm not allowed to own one ?!!!!!! Gun crime may be increasing slightly here but I'm not worried IN THE SLIGHTEST BIT that I could be shot. That's quite a nice feeling don't you think?
Yes I believe in God.
Yes I believe in legal gun ownership.
Yes I believe in having the guts to defend my home.
No I am not being sarcastic.
How does that make me a religious extremist? Or is that some word you throw at when you disagree with the person. Would you defend your home? You Liberal's really crack me up with your accusations. If a person is ...[text shortened]... keep your behind in Australia and quit worrying about us poor yanks. We don't need a keeper.🙂
By the way - Are we supposed to be offended by being branded as 'Liberal' ? Try looking it up in a dictionary.
22 Feb 04
Originally posted by slimjim"In fact me owning guns will insure that I will never submit to slavery."
What has gun ownership rights have to do with slavery? If you think I approve of slavery then you are sadly misstaken. In fact me owning guns will insure that I will never submit to slavery. As for the Indian's well, I'm sure they killed other members of other tribes. History has a long list of atrocities. What do you want to do? Sue Mongolia for what Ghen ...[text shortened]... my Dad's family over here also. Sounds rather ludicrous when you think about it, doesn't it.
You've lost me there! Please explain.
22 Feb 04
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Originally posted by ianpickeringI didn't know that "liberal" is an offensive term because it is used everywere, in books, on tv, on RHP, etc.
By the way - Are we supposed to be offended by being branded as 'Liberal' ? Try looking it up in a dictionary.[/b]
If anyone finds this term offensive what is the reason for that ?
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22 Feb 04
Originally posted by flexmoreNow we went from gun ownership to heroin. Why don't you make some sense in your arguments?
widely available heroin in one country is inevitably smuggled out to those countries not wanting it.
similarly with guns.
you and your friends want to shoot each other, so you will. but what about the rest of us? you are arming criminals around the globe.
(yes, yes if you didn't do it then someone else would - the heroin dealers think the same)
22 Feb 04
Originally posted by ianpickeringIf you are saying that the US has a crime problem then I agree. We have a tendency to lock up a drug dealer longer than a rapists and murderers. They are more concerned for the rights of criminals than honest folks. Here we have left wing groups who whine about poor Johnny who killed somebody because his Mother drank beer during her pregnancy or some other bogus argument. They don't care about the victims family that Johnny killed or raped. I have a gun in the unlikely event that my home will be broken into because I have a wife and three daughters and I can assure you that "Johnny" will not inflict harm to them. I can assure you they will carry his ass out on a stretcher on his way to the morgue. When the day comes that there is no crime then I will be the first to turn in my weapons. No you don't have to be offended by the term "LIberal" just like I'm not offended by the term "Conservative". When I mention slavery I mean that here in the US we don't have to worry about some tinpot dictator taking over the country because we are an armed populace. Look at what Hitler did when he confiscated the weapons from private owners. I got a good idea. Why don't you whine about Switzerland having their citizens armed. It's not the US right? As I stated before Mr. Pickering we don't need a keeper. 🙂
Ever wondered why you need a gun? Take a look around a society that means (in your eyes) that you need one and weep. You think I'm mad that I'm not allowed to own one ?!!!!!! Gun crime may be increasing slightly here but I'm not worried IN THE SLIGHTEST BIT that I could be shot. That's quite a nice feeling don't you think?
By the way - Are we supposed to be offended by being branded as 'Liberal' ? Try looking it up in a dictionary.
22 Feb 04
Originally posted by slimjimIs your country really that soft on crime? Take a look at these statistics
If you are saying that the US has a crime problem then I agree. We have a tendency to lock up a drug dealer longer than a rapists and murderers. They are more concerned for the rights of criminals than honest folks. Here we have left wing groups who whine about poor Johnny who killed somebody because his Mother drank beer during her pregnancy or some other ...[text shortened]... zens armed. It's not the US right? As I stated before Mr. Pickering we don't need a keeper. 🙂
In the past 20 years, the number of Americans incarcerated has risen by almost 400 percent, costing the country an estimated $41 billion annually. The growth has been a result of "get tough on crime policies"
With a record-setting 2 million people now locked up in American jails and prisons, the United States has overtaken Russia and has a higher percentage of its citizens behind bars than any other country
I think you need to look elsewhere for the reasons for the violence in your society.
22 Feb 04
Originally posted by ianpickeringNo. We need to lockup the ones that are still out in the streets. What we shouldn't get tough on crime? Just what do these statistics mean? That finally the government is getting tough on crime so what. Are you soft on crime or just soft headed.
Is your country really that soft on crime? Take a look at these statistics
In the past 20 years, the number of Americans incarcerated has risen by almost 400 percent, costing the country an estimated $41 billion annually. The growth has been a result of "get tough on crime policies"
With a record-setting 2 million people now locked up in Americ ...[text shortened]... country
I think you need to look elsewhere for the reasons for the violence in your society.