Originally posted by SwissGambitSo the defeat I suffered to a then 1500 player was not really a defeat or was it? Calculate the rating difference if my opponent was 1900 or 1700 versus 1500 and he won me at 1750.
I don't see what you hope to accomplish by this McCarthy-like quest. Of all the names named, only one actually did something unethical [the guy with tons of low-band tournament victories].
As for the rest of the names, it only highlights the need for rating floors. It is pointless to blame people for resigning all their games to tend to more important things than online chess. Tell us, what would you have a person do in that situation?
Originally posted by ludzSo this is the reason for all this fuss?! A 1500 defeats you and you rationalise it as him being a sandbagger. 🙄
So the defeat I suffered to a then 1500 player was not really a defeat or was it? Calculate the rating difference if my opponent was 1900 or 1700 versus 1500 and he won me at 1750.
Originally posted by adam warlockThe reason for his rating dropping down is because he is losing games like this :-
So this is the reason for all this fuss?! A 1500 defeats you and you rationalise it as him being a sandbagger. 🙄
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3
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Is this why we come to play chess here?
Originally posted by ludzI certainly didn't come to do that. But some other people that you are accusing actually have a life and other priorities. Sometimes mass resignations happen cause you get too caught up and get too many games. I've done that once and I don't think I'll be doing it again now that I know my limit. If I had the intention of winning lower banded tournaments I'd be sandbagging but that's not the case. And as it isn't the case for me it isn't for Ivan but there you go on your witch hunt.
The reason for his rating dropping down is because he is losing games like this :-
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3
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Is this why we come to play chess here?
People here know about sandbagging a long time ago and can recognise sandbaggers don't worry about that.
I may be coming off too harsh but Jesus you are exagerating!
Originally posted by ludzA defeat is a defeat regardless of your opponent's rating.
So the defeat I suffered to a then 1500 player was not really a defeat or was it? Calculate the rating difference if my opponent was 1900 or 1700 versus 1500 and he won me at 1750.
Post a link to the game, please.
Originally posted by ludzIt has already been explained to you over and over why someone might need to resign all their games.
The reason for his rating dropping down is because he is losing games like this :-
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3
0-1
Is this why we come to play chess here?
You never answered my question. What would you have a player do if life circumstances force them to stop playing chess for a few months?
I won one or two 1400-1600 or so rated tournaments that I started when I (obviously) was that rating but also playing at that level. Then I started paying more attention to chess on RHP and as a consequence I'm yoyoing around 1800. Should these tournament victories be taken from me?
Some people are obvious sandbaggers, others might just have improved their chess or their attention to it (which basically improves the chess just as well).
I was thinking of posting this with a point in it somewhere, but now realise I've failed at that. Apologies.
Sandbaggers are an irritant, they only get to you if you let them. I simply resign any tournament where I'm up against a sandbagger.
Life's too short to worry about pathetic people - we're here to play chess and to have a good time in the forums. And it's way too easy to imagine sandbagging where none exists - we all have lives outside chess, that include things like assignments, exams, girlfriends and computer problems!
So worry about your own game and think about this - at least real sandbaggers give you the opportunity to improve your own game by playing higher-rated players!
Originally posted by davanielThis is a different kettle of fish altogether. If you won those tourneys before you achieved anything like your current level, then good luck to you. My tourney win is in a band I'll not be able to enter again unless I deliberately lower my current rating. I won that tourney fair and square by switching to the Sicilian *hint hint* and by learning from some of the fantastic players we have on this site. I regularly lose games against people rated a good 400 points below me. Wouldn't it be nice if sandbaggers' embarrasing tourney losses were listed on their profile also. Name and shame baby, name and shame.
I won one or two 1400-1600 or so rated tournaments that I started when I (obviously) was that rating but also playing at that level. Then I started paying more attention to chess on RHP and as a consequence I'm yoyoing around 1800. Should these tournament victories be taken from me?
Some people are obvious sandbaggers, others might just have improved their ...[text shortened]... of posting this with a point in it somewhere, but now realise I've failed at that. Apologies.