09 Feb 10
Originally posted by Phlabibit😀
LoL!~ I still remember my wife to be...
"Howie, do something"! as Pat and I threw down in the parking lot at the bar after several pints of Killian's Red. Still not sure what her problem was, Pat and I were LAUGHING!~
I am a bit ashamed for hitting a man with glasses, I might mention.
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what is it with you and parking lot fights anyway? 🙂
09 Feb 10
Originally posted by Palynkahttp://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=ignorant&searchmode=none
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ignorant
ignorant [ig-ner-uhnt]
–adjective
1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3. uninformed; unaware.
4. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.
Nope. Can't see this wilful BS.
late 14c., from O.Fr. ignorant, from L. ignorantia, from ignorantem, prp. of ignorare from in- "not" + Old L. gnarus "aware, acquainted with," from Porot-L. suffixed form *gno-ro-, related to gnoscere "to know" (see know). Form influenced by ignotus "unknown." Cf. also uncouth. Colloquial sense of "ill-mannered" first attested 1886.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=ignore&searchmode=none
1611, "not to know, to be ignorant of," from Fr. ignorer, from L. ignorare "not to know, disregard," from ignarus "not knowing, unaware" (see ignorant). Sense of "pay no attention to" first recorded 1801 and not common until c.1850.
Not my first rodeo. Honest.
09 Feb 10
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHLOL, so the etymological origin of the word is the "up-to-date" connotation, although it isn't featured in modern dictionaries. Is this your argument? 😵
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=ignorant&searchmode=none
late 14c., from O.Fr. ignorant, from L. ignorantia, from ignorantem, prp. of ignorare from in- "not" + Old L. gnarus "aware, acquainted with," from Porot-L. suffixed form *gno-ro-, related to gnoscere "to know" (see know). Form influenced by ignotus "unknown." Cf. also uncouth. C rded 1801 and not common until c.1850.
Not my first rodeo. Honest.
Moreover, even your first link has nothing about wilfulness.
09 Feb 10
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Originally posted by PalynkaLet me explain then.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ignorant
ignorant [ig-ner-uhnt]
–adjective
1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3. uninformed; unaware.
4. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.
Nope. Can't see this wilful BS.
My friend, let's call him Pat since I already did in my last post.
Pat wouldn't talk on a subject if he didn't know about it, but he'd listen. Next, when he had time he'd get the dictionary, encyclopedia, or even go to the library if required.
Next time you saw him he'd dispute half of what you said if not all of it. He wasn't one to talk about something he didn't know about... and for the most part he already knew about the subject people were talking about. He was great for conversation.
The best was when you visited his house for a 'get together'. He had a 2,300 page or so dictionary on an antique pedestal and we'd 'spelling bee' him for kicks... as well as quizzing him on definitions.
So, ignorance is a choice as he sees it. If there is something you don't know about you can always read up on it. That was his attitude.
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09 Feb 10
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Originally posted by PhlabibitWhy are you repeating yourself? 😕
Let me explain then.
My friend, let's call him Pat since I already did in my last post.
Pat wouldn't talk on a subject if he didn't know about it, but he'd listen. Next, when he had time he'd get the dictionary, encyclopedia, or even go to the library if required.
Next time you saw him he'd dispute half of what you said if not all of it. He wasn g you don't know about you can always read up on it. That was his attitude.
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09 Feb 10
Originally posted by PhlabibitLook, you can assert it all you want, but that's stupid. I already presented an argument against that assertion. You either deal with it or GTFO. Repeating the same assertion will get you nowhere.
Because you don't seem to understand ignorance [b]is a conscience decision.
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09 Feb 10
Originally posted by PalynkaYou proved crap. You showed a definition and said, "I don't see it".
Look, you can assert it all you want, but that's stupid. I already presented an argument against that assertion. You either deal with it or GTFO. Repeating the same assertion will get you nowhere.
Yet I tell you that if someone is ignorant on a subject they can learn it if they desire.
It's real simple... you LEARN and next you KNOW.
Try it sometime.
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09 Feb 10
Originally posted by PhlabibitTry reading the first post I addressed to YOU in this thread. Not barging in on my exchange with Freaky and then claim I didn't address YOUR assertion.
You proved crap. You showed a definition and said, "I don't see it".
Yet I tell you that if someone is ignorant on a subject they can learn it if they desire.
It's real simple... you LEARN and next you KNOW.
Try it sometime.
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09 Feb 10
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Ignorance is simply a lack of knowledge.
Ignorance may or may not be accompanied by ones awareness that one lacks knowledge. Ignorance is independent of the wisdom of whether one knows they are ignorant or not.
It is not a choice of being ignorant if one simply does not know that they do not know.
09 Feb 10
Originally posted by BadwaterPerhaps I should clear this up, as I might not have said something important.
Ignorance is simply a lack of knowledge.
Ignorance may or may not be accompanied by ones awareness that one lacks knowledge. Ignorance is independent of the wisdom of whether one knows they are ignorant or now.
It is not a choice of being ignorant if one simply does not know that they do not know.
This is about people who are ignorant on a subject, yet will talk about the subject and won't look into their facts.
I don't know crap about quantum mechanics... but I'm not going to argue on the subject with anyone about it knowing I'm ignorant on the subject.
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