02 Sep 05
Originally posted by D43M0NWow! You really have your head up your butt don't you! Everybody knows that I am certainly not one of No1's pets.
OK.
Being right does not mean you can be a dickhead.
My advice (even though I am 99% sure you will not heed it, or bother to even read it) is that you hurry up and leave the site, along with your pet dog Arrakis.
I think you only believe what you want to believe, and have a tendacy to twist the facts. ðŸ˜
02 Sep 05
I mean, if you can't even let a guy defend himself (if he can) and show the general public a sample of the evidence, A game or two explained is all that would be nessacery.
To me, since the mods can't, haven't yet, or won't do this, then it appears to me, whether guilty or not, hes getting railroaded.
02 Sep 05
Originally posted by 24I cannot agree with you, 24. Let me give you some insight, since I was a computer buster for years at the site you are recommending.
I don't think so. What is so "intelligent" about funding (or continuing to fund) an organization which has shown itself as having all the charisma of the Nazi secret police??
I would happily now see RHP and all who continue to sail in her sink without trace.
There are plenty of other options open for online chess after all.
At ICC all busters belong to more of a "secret society" than you can imagine. Nobody but the buster group knows who these people are... NOT EVEN high-ranking managers know their identity! They have "tools" that would boggle your mind. Any buster at ICC can check your computer while you are logged onto the site and determine if you are switching between windows while playing.
I don't like the idea of someone interrogating my computer while I'm playing at their site. As far as I know, that isn't quite the same as what RHP uses.
02 Sep 05
Originally posted by fierytormentAnyone can contact admin without having the ability to log into the site.. he can even read all these forum posts.
I mean, if you can't even let a guy defend himself (if he can) and show the general public a sample of the evidence, A game or two explained is all that would be nessacery.
To me, since the mods can't, haven't yet, or won't do this, then it appears to me, whether guilty or not, hes getting railroaded.
So.. its quite possible that him and Russ are discussing the situation as we all debate it ourselves.
02 Sep 05
Originally posted by fierytormentYou saw three games on the CC private forum and pronounced yourself satisfied last night; what changed yer mind?
I mean, if you can't even let a guy defend himself (if he can) and show the general public a sample of the evidence, A game or two explained is all that would be nessacery.
To me, since the mods can't, haven't yet, or won't do this, then it appears to me, whether guilty or not, hes getting railroaded.
02 Sep 05
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Originally posted by arrakiswow thats pretty hot stuff.. can they tell whats on the other windows? I have multiple windows open all the time and we have several pcs on a lan at home can they see them too?
I cannot agree with you, 24. Let me give you some insight, since I was a computer buster for years at the site you are recommending.
At ICC all busters belong to more of a "secret society" than you can imagine. Nobody but the buster group knows who these people are... NOT EVEN high-ranking managers know their identity! They have "tools" that would b ...[text shortened]... while I'm playing at their site. As far as I know, that isn't quite the same as what RHP uses.
I'm not worried about the chess so much..my game is awful and has been scruteneered as irratic! but the privacy aspect of this is unacceptable.. I sincerely hope nothing like that happens on this site
02 Sep 05
Originally posted by Tirau DanGet your hand out of your lap!
wow thats pretty hot stuff.. can they tell whats on the other windows? I have multiple windows open all the time and we have several pcs on a lan at home can they see them too?
I'm not worried about the chess so much..my game is awful and has been scruteneered as irratic! but the privacy aspect of this is unacceptable.. I sincerely hope nothing like that happens on this site
Signed, The Game Mods.
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02 Sep 05
Originally posted by tmetzlerI just want to correct something that tmetzler said... in case some of you are now left waiting for something that will not happen.
no1, would not know this.
But, there are a great many people that have been accused by various members of the site; that have either been: cleared, or insufficent evidence has been found. We don't want to wrongfully ban anybody. The reason this process takes so long is because of that fact.
There is no concept of being cleared, because it is impossible to clear someone of cheating. If, after investigating a complaint, we find insufficient evidence of cheating, we simply move on.
Although we can reach a point of certainty that cheating has taken place, we can never be certain that cheating has not taken place.
If you make a complaint, and that person has not been banned, either they are still being investigated or insufficient/inconclusive evidence has been found... thus far.
The burdon of "proof" has been set exceptionally high by Russ. There has to be overwhelming evidence of cheating. There has to be certainty beyond reasonable doubt. The decision must be unanimous.
There is an infinitely greater chance of a cheater getting away with their activity than there is of someone being wrongly banned.
But the idea that anyone can or will be cleared? Don't hold your breath.