Supplements

Originally posted by trev33
no carbohydrates?

Yeah, I do. Depends on the day but yes. Just not too much.

Originally posted by Sunburnt
Yeah, I do. Depends on the day but yes. Just not too much.

that might be your problem, they are your best slow energy release form. start eating loads of pasta.

do you eat white bread?

Originally posted by Sunburnt


I will try Flax....I take acidiphulus...heard of the benefits?

I was having the same problem, tired all the time, couldn't kick coffee, I needed it so badly to get going. All kinds of weird infections.

Turns out my digestion was all out of whack. Add fiber and clean things out. I do a couple of weeks on with fiber, acidiphulus, multi vitamin, flax and omega 3 oils, and a calcium with D, and then 5 to 6 weeks off. Works great, saves money, and my immune system is back up to speed.

Originally posted by trev33
that might be your problem, they are your best slow energy release form. start eating loads of pasta.

do you eat white bread?

I don't eat white bread.

i can't eat loads of pasta!

Originally posted by Busygirl
I was having the same problem, tired all the time, couldn't kick coffee, I needed it so badly to get going. All kinds of weird infections.

Turns out my digestion was all out of whack. Add fiber and clean things out. I do a couple of weeks on with fiber, acidiphulus, multi vitamin, flax and omega 3 oils, and a calcium with D, and then 5 to 6 weeks off. Works great, saves money, and my immune system is back up to speed.

Hmmm. PM'ing.

Originally posted by Sunburnt
I don't eat white bread.

i can't eat loads of pasta!

Whole wheat bread and pasta. Both are better for you, more filling more vitamins and have, guess what? Fiber!

Originally posted by Sunburnt
Hmm. Ok. Well, even when I exercise devotedly and eat like a champ, I still get run down and sick. I drink water all day from bottles, always have. I think it must be stress, I don't know.

I will try Flax....I take acidiphulus...heard of the benefits?

I will keep taking the vitamins til they run out, then go to just the multivitamin. You must have ...[text shortened]... Sometimes I eat nothing but protein and a V-8 all day. I know I need more veggies and fruits.

When I was your age I had four kids under the age of 7 and I was anemic. Didn't help that I'd had a racing heart since I was seven years old myself! My kidneys were not functioning properly either. So it took several doctors over a 40 year period to finally get things working right. I was like a new person for each thing that was adjusted. But age is against me now. BTW, when you said "protein", were you referring to meat? Those protein liquids were banned, I think. They were causing liver damage.

Originally posted by Sunburnt
I just started taking supplements. I did my research. I take 6 plus a multivitamin. I'm doing this to boost my immune system. Since I've aged, I just am not as healthy or energetic as I used to be. I've noticed a change and I'm only 36.

Seriously, what do you think? Do vitamins make a big difference? Do you take vitamins and if so, have you noticed any change in your energy/health?

They are expensive 🙁.

Yeah. I take protein shakes, vitamines and creatine. (gym, new obsession in addition to chess 😛). I can feel the difference. My kidneys could feel the difference soon too, though 🙁

Originally posted by ivan2908
Yeah. I take protein shakes, vitamines and creatine. (gym, new obsession in addition to chess 😛). I can feel the difference. My kidneys could feel the difference soon too, though 🙁

I do protein shakes but only occasionally. I love meat. I won't take creatine. I wondered when a gym dude would chime in. I know it's a completly different thing. Men are different - and lucky! Being female, I take extra D, Calcium, a little b12 and a, b and c.


I'm a healthy eater. I don't eat much in the way of preserved food or snacks. I just wonder if the vitamins are worth it. I'm going to experiment over time to see what, if anything, really matters.

Originally posted by Sunburnt
I do protein shakes but only occasionally. I love meat. I won't take creatine. I wondered when a gym dude would chime in. I know it's a completly different thing. Men are different - and lucky! Being female, I take extra D, Calcium, a little b12 and a, b and c.


I'm a healthy eater. I don't eat much in the way of preserved food or snacks. I just won ...[text shortened]... s are worth it. I'm going to experiment over time to see what, if anything, really matters.

Men are different - and lucky!

and yet i prefer woman.

what is your normal diet? it's sound as if you're either not eating enough or you're not eating enough energy giving foods.

Originally posted by Sunburnt
I just wonder if the vitamins are worth it. I'm going to experiment over time to see what, if anything, really matters.

why dont u use google scholar to do some research of experiments already done by other ppl, this could save you alot of time (and money).
I think you will conclude the extra supplements will not help if you already eat healthy.
Heres one little example that i looked up for you (i know it only concerns breast cancer and not health in general, but still...):
"Conclusions Large intakes of vitamin C or E did not protect women in our study from breast cancer. A low intake of vitamin A may increase the risk of this disease; any benefit of vitamin A supplements may be limited to women with diets low in vitamin A."
from:
A Prospective Study of the Intake of Vitamins C, E, and A and the Risk of Breast Cancer
by:
David J. Hunter, JoAnn E. Manson, Graham A. Colditz, Meir J. Stampfer, Bernard Rosner, Charles H. Hennekens, Frank E. Speizer, and Walter C. Willett

Originally posted by zozozozo
why dont u use google scholar to do some research of experiments already done by other ppl, this could save you alot of time (and money).
I think you will conclude the extra supplements will not help if you already eat healthy.
Heres one little example that i looked up for you (i know it only concerns breast cancer and not health in general, but still...) ...[text shortened]... eir J. Stampfer, Bernard Rosner, Charles H. Hennekens, Frank E. Speizer, and Walter C. Willett

people react differently to different things...just because a study says x product is useless for 90% of the public doesn't mean that isn't in the 10%.

Originally posted by trev33
people react differently to different things...just because a study says x product is useless for 90% of the public doesn't mean that isn't in the 10%.

"people react differently to different things"
Depends what we are talking about, every human body works about the same (appart from woman-men. and children-adults).

"just because a study says x product is useless for 90% of the public doesn't mean that isn't in the 10%."
So are you saying these studys are useless cuz ull never know if you yourself are part of the 10 or 90 percent?
If a product x is bad for 90 percent of the ppl that tested it, its probably better if you yourself wont take it either.

Also, testing these things by yourself (1 person) is not going to give u any conclusions anyway, how will you know if any changes werent cause by other factors?

Like Sunburnt said herself, its probably just stress,
most likely because she has to deal with you in the forums!
hehe😉

Originally posted by zozozozo
"[b]people react differently to different things"
Depends what we are talking about, every human body works about the same (appart from woman-men. and children-adults).

"just because a study says x product is useless for 90% of the public doesn't mean that isn't in the 10%."
So are you saying these studys are useless cuz ull never know if yo ...[text shortened]... probably just stress,
most likely because she has to deal with you in the forums!
hehe😉[/b]

i blame the PM's personally.

Depends what we are talking about, every human body works about the same (appart from woman-men. and children-adults).

this sooooo isn't true. i'm too lazy to go into great detail but think about it. everyone has there own little things that work for them for different things. especially with food which is what i'm talking about. look at me for example i can eat as much as i want but never go above 65kg.

So are you saying these studys are useless cuz ull never know if you yourself are part of the 10 or 90 percent?
If a product x is bad for 90 percent of the ppl that tested it, its probably better if you yourself wont take it either.

no i'm saying that what is ineffective for 90% might help you, you will never know unless you try.

i never used the word 'bad' i said useless. like a harmless placebo.

Originally posted by trev33
i blame the PM's personally.

[b]Depends what we are talking about, every human body works about the same (appart from woman-men. and children-adults).

this sooooo isn't true. i'm too lazy to go into great detail but think about it. everyone has there own little things that work for them for different things. especially with food which is what i'm ta ...[text shortened]... w unless you try.

i never used the word 'bad' i said useless. like a harmless placebo.[/b]

hmmz, maybe you just exercise alot, or perhaps your digestive system just works a bit faster.
Still, if you or me or Sunburnt or anyone else will eat extra vitamin A, our bodys are going to dump it with the urine anyway, yours just might do it a little faster:p
i dont know...yeah, ill admit everyone has slightly different reactions to different things but in the big lines we all work the same.

"no i'm saying that what is ineffective for 90% might help you, you will never know unless you try."
No you wont know when u try either. When u try u must make sure everything goes the same as for when u didnt eat the supplements, then u can compare the two situations. This is rather impossible since your life mainly differs from day to day.