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Originally posted by cashthetrash
And what about the accusers? Haven't some of them been removed from authority? How long should their perceived inadequacies be left to Judge. And shouldn't it then be open to review?

The Site Admins make the call on who gets banned, not the "accusers".

Bitch at Russ if you don't like it. Tell him he should reinstate the "National Master" because you don't like the people who "accused" him. That should work out well.

Originally posted by coquette
Boring

Then don't read it or post in the thread as I'm sure you have something much more important to do with your valuable time like finger painting.

Originally posted by no1marauder
VR: Well I never heard tell of you until you came to this site, [b]by the name you are using now.

From the mouths of babes.[/b]

I do know People on other chess sites, not just RHP! I was thinking if the person knew me, it certainly wasn't by the name being used is all.

Stop trying to read something into it, that just doesn't exist.

Originally posted by Very Rusty
I do know People on other chess sites, not just RHP! I was thinking if the person knew me, it certainly wasn't by the name being used is all.

Stop trying to read something into it, that just doesn't exist.

Sure VR (nudge, nudge).

Originally posted by no1marauder
The Site Admins make the call on who gets banned, not the "accusers".

Bitch at Russ if you don't like it. Tell him he should reinstate the "National Master" because you don't like the people who "accused" him. That should work out well.

It is not a question of likability it is a mater of trusting the the quality of the data presented and the interpretation based on an unusual circumstance in the questioned credibility of some of the accusers own actions and those who were investigating. Who themselves have been accusing each other of misconduct and have apparently been disbanded as a result of something perceived as possibly sinister.

This is not something I am a part of, it is just what I think would be a justifiable cause for a revaluation or a reopening of a case as a result of these obvious problems.

I have no opinion other than the perception is that something stinks. And since these accused have had no problems on other sites that it might be something worth looking into here. Mistakes can be made and there is honor in keeping an open mind.

Forget all of the above it's too hard for you to understand, just considerate on the idea: Garbage in garbage out.

Originally posted by cashthetrash
It is not a question of likability it is a mater of trusting the the quality of the data presented and the interpretation based on an unusual circumstance in the questioned credibility of some of the accusers own actions and those who were investigating. Who themselves have been accusing each other of misconduct and have apparently been disbanded as a r ...[text shortened]... bove it's too hard for you to understand, just considerate on the idea: Garbage in garbage out.

This cheat was evaluated in the same way as dozens of other cheats were evaluated and dealt with. None of the gossip you are relying on changes the fact that an accusation was made with supporting evidence, the Game Mods evaluated that evidence and conducted their own investigation using the same tools and methods used in many other cases, they then made a recommendation (unamiously) forwarded it to the Site Admins with the supporting evidence and the Site Admins then banned the cheat. That is how the system has worked for years.

That a cheater is thriving on Gameknot is nothing new; IronMan31 is doing quite well there, too. That they don't care about cheating there is no reason for RHP to scrap its insistence that engine use will not be tolerated here.

Put simply, that Cludi was a cheat doesn't mean we should reinstate every cheater banned during his time as Game Mod; the evidence against them was found by the Game Mods and the Site Admins to be "overwhelming" and beyond "reasonable doubt". And that there have been allegations regarding other Game Mods is similarly no reason to change the evaluation of proven cheat, liar and fraud nmdavidb.

Get over it.

Originally posted by no1marauder
This cheat was evaluated in the same way as dozens of other cheats were evaluated and dealt with. None of the gossip you are relying on changes the fact that an accusation was made with supporting evidence, the Game Mods evaluated that evidence and conducted their own investigation using the same tools and methods used in many other cases, they then made ...[text shortened]... ange the evaluation of proven cheat, liar and fraud nmdavidb.

Get over it.

And if for some reason the site Administrators decided to side against you, would you get over it so easily?

Originally posted by no1marauder
The Site Admins make the call on who gets banned, not the "accusers".

Bitch at Russ if you don't like it. Tell him he should reinstate the "National Master" because you don't like the people who "accused" him. That should work out well.

Great logic. Kind of like the government has never done witchhunts with complete bogus info. I think that was the title you used to like to call yourself.

I have listened to SOOOO many people screaming that Bush lied to the American people about WMD's in Iraq just to go to war there.

Is there any difference? On scale yes, but in corruption no.

The numbers were not correct. They did not add up. The guy didn't cheat. He was ousted because you screamed and moaned like a 12 year old girl whose dolly got taken away.

The inner workings of this place are very messed up.

The people who know the truth are seeing through your lies,and also that apparently the Game Mods didn't get it right all of the time.

You call him a blatant cheat, but with what info you have provided that YOU say is blatant is only proof of one thing. You had a BLATANT problem with the guy, and in the end you won. It took alot of lies and misdirection to do it. But you pulled it off. I don't think I could sleep well at night with doing something like that to a person. But I know you do, it's easy to piss on the people you don't like when you have no moral compass.

Originally posted by cashthetrash
And if for some reason the site Administrators decided to side against you, would you get over it so easily?

Like that would ever happen.

He is part of the "chosen people".

And from what I have been told, you and alot of others are NOT card carriers.

Originally posted by cashthetrash
And if for some reason the site Administrators decided to side against you, would you get over it so easily?

I guarantee you I would not come back as a different user name and complain about it if for some reason I got banned. This place isn't really that important.

Originally posted by no1marauder
I guarantee you I would not come back as a different user name and complain about it if for some reason I got banned. This place isn't really that important.

I couldn't help but notice that your star is gone! Does this mean that you are on your way out also?

Originally posted by Carterson
Great logic. Kind of like the government has never done witchhunts with complete bogus info. I think that was the title you used to like to call yourself.

I have listened to SOOOO many people screaming that Bush lied to the American people about WMD's in Iraq just to go to war there.

Is there any difference? On scale yes, but in corruption no.

The now you do, it's easy to piss on the people you don't like when you have no moral compass.

Dave(?) you really need to get over this. Just posting more lies isn't going to change anything. The idea that I have some kind of privileged place in the Site Admin's minds is completely laughable.

There was no "corruption" in this matter. And no lies. I provided not merely my numbers (which are correct) but the games themselves fully analyzed by Fritz. Anyone can duplicate the results by running the games at the settings I did. Duecer has the file; he has my permission to give it to anybody with Fritz or any other engine for analysis. The results will speak for themselves.

I followed the prescribed methods regarding nmdavidb as already mentioned. I have a problem with any cheat. Some cheats I actually personally liked (Cludi and Exy seemed like good guys on the Clan Forum and Trackhead was OK with me, for example), but cheats they were and deserved banning. There are a number of people here I don't care for, but if there isn't evidence they cheat I don't try to get them banned (not that my trying alone accomplishes much). My "moral compass" is fine; as the Buddha said: Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth. And the truth is that nmdavidb was a cheat and whatever role I played in getting him removed (undoubtedly a small one) was a good deed that helped others avoid being cheated. Defenders of said cheat are the ones with the screwed up moral compass.


If you hate this "corrupt" site sooooooooooooooo much, get off it.

Originally posted by Very Rusty
I couldn't help but notice that your star is gone! Does this mean that you are on your way out also?

Quite possibly though I've let my sub lapse before and returned. This place has its charms.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Quite possibly though I've let my sub lapse before and returned. This place has its charms.

Turn and return!

Originally posted by no1marauder
I guarantee you I would not come back as a different user name and complain about it if for some reason I got banned. This place isn't really that important.

You spend an incredible amount of time here for something so unimportant to you.

I have always felt that one of the things I like about this site is the fact that the Administrators have a special gift to recognize glitches and flaws in the system and make improvements whenever they can. They are aware that there are imperfections and keep an open mind. Always looking for a way to fix an error. That is the way they are.

You on the other hand never admit to the possibility of a mistake. Never want to go back and evaluate or reexamine. I admire your confidence but if you were a doctor the real cause of the ulcer might never be found because your mind only uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... For support rather than illumination."