Originally posted by no1marauderWhy not just post them here?
PM me with an e-mail address and I'll send you the same stuff I sent the Game Mods. Of course, they did further analysis, but there's no doubt at all that the National Master was a cheater. He didn't have many games and it takes a while for your rating to increase here. Plus he tanked a few games by taking draws when "he" had won positions.
EDIT: If y ...[text shortened]... no sense sending the game files but I'll send you the results of my analysis either way.
Originally posted by no1marauderWell that doesn't make any sense. A person cheats, which is very wrong, and the people he/she cheated out of points and the community he /she lied to are not privy to that information?
The Forum Mods go ape if you post engine analysis EVEN IF the player already has been banned!
Don't ask me why; I have no idea.
Originally posted by duecerYour statement does not match even with obvious facts:
I have SERIOUS doubts about whether he was cheating. He might have been liar, but a cheater? His rating never got much over 1800, and he plays at gk and his rating there is between 1700-1800, that doesn't say cheater to me. I won't be convinced until I see the data for myself.
For example you wrote: His rating never got much over 1800
When he was banned his rating was 1957.
P.S. And actually he obviously sandbagged to keep his rating lower.
After that sandbagging thing it got me to thinking on this.
Now I know some people have posted the list of 3b people, that was taken down, reasons behind it I am sure are another behind the doors thing. But I looked at that list. There were some 1300's and 1500's and stuff like that.
Quick question. Would a cheater actually hang around the 1300-1500 level? I mean what is the point of cheating in that? I mean yeah I guess you win whatever tournament is designed for that level, but still you would think the mindframe would want to cheat and beat everyone.
That one makes no sense.
But another problem then does arise. After a few conversations with people it would seem this ironman person was the biggest cheat of all. How long was he on top? Quite awhile from what I have been told.
And because I guess people like talking to me and giving me information, the original cheater on this site is still here.
Why is that?
Do the game mods just pick and choose who should be gone and who gets to stay?
I could care less about any of these people but with my country going array and our Constitution not being used any more it would seem that the same kind of mentality back in the McCarthy trials is basis for banning here.
He is a communist, so put him in jail.
He is a cheater, so boot him off the site.
No one ever put public the reasons for a person being a communist back then.
And it would appear that is the same here.
korch, as a former game mod can you explain that?
Originally posted by CartersonOne of duecer`s argument against nmdavidb`s cheating was his rating which was not so high. Taking into account nmdavidb`s sandbagging this argument is invalid.
So he sandbagged and didn't cheat? I have yet to figure out this behind the doors system. I am just curious because of all the stuff on that other site.