I apologize up front for missing all the bashing…I found some Newcastle Brown and Old Speckled Hen, and sampled them both. I was unable to locate the great majority of the brews mentioned. Which leads me to my own bash…
American domestic beer… Shut your eyes and sample a dozen varieties and you would be hard pressed to tell the difference. The mega-breweries, of Anheuser-Busch, Miller, Coors etc, have over the years assimilated smaller breweries like some kind of Beer Borg. “Resistance is Futile” With their huge marketing budgets and distribution networks they have squeezed 99% of the competition into oblivion. They are the Beer equivalents of Wal-Mart and Microsoft.
What’s worse is that in order to make 10 billion cans a day and spread it like a swarm of aluminum locusts across our landscape they had to so change the product it is nothing more than a pale counterfeit of what it once was. It’s mass produced pasteurized pale pee.
The only decent beers left in the US are from microbreweries and imports.
Those of you fortunate enough to live in a land as yet unconquered by the Beer Borg rejoice and enjoy your Beer Independence! But beware!!! The Beer Borg are coming! Do not pander their pilsner! Resist to the end!
By the way I enjoyed both the Newcastle Brown Ale and Old Speckled Hen…
Originally posted by elohiym chananOf cause if you ever get bored of life try Kestrel Super Strength larger eight cans of that and it's stomach pumping time, but it's good stuff.
I apologize up front for missing all the bashing…I found some Newcastle Brown and Old Speckled Hen, and sampled them both. I was unable to locate the great majority of the brews mentioned. Which leads me to my own bash…
American domestic beer… Shut your eyes and sample a dozen varieties and you would be hard pressed to tell the difference. The mega ...[text shortened]... Resist to the end!
By the way I enjoyed both the Newcastle Brown Ale and Old Speckled Hen…
Originally posted by PBE6Taste is subjective, yes. That is why people are able to say that they like Budweiser and keep a straight face. But the fact that Budweiser is an inferior product is easy to demonstrate. All you have to do is look at the label, as I suggested in my previous post. Budweiser has the temerity to print their ingredients right on the label for all to see. They are listed as: Water, Barley, Malt, Rice, Hops and Yeast. Rice is the giveaway. Rice (and sometimes corn) is used by the big breweries as a cut rate ingredient to keep costs down. Unless you are brewing a wheat beer, or some other kind of specialty beer, any brewery that pretends to put out a quality product will adhere to the Reinheitsgebot (German purity laws of 1516), which (although no longer legally binding) states that only barley, hops, yeast and water can be used in the brewing of beer. Rice will be conspicuously absent. Any brewery that stoops so low as to use filth like rice or corn in their brewing process automatically loses any right to claim they produce a quality product. I suspect most major American breweries are guilty of the same crime, but only Budweiser is so blatant as to advertise the fact.
Not to sound defensive, but define "superior" for beer. There's no way to do it without resorting to subjective judgements. That's my point. I'm not going to champion Bud, because I don't happen to like it, but I'm not going to bash anyone who says they like it. At least they have it right - taste is subjective.
So in conclusion, I can confidently and objectively state that Budweiser is swill not fit for human consumption. It is an incontrovertible and proven fact that transends any hint of subjectivity. But anyone is still free to claim they like it, if they really want to.
Originally posted by PBE6I made the mistake of reading your posts once. I will not willingly do so again. Now let me ask you...what part of my post did you not understand? Budweiser uses inferior ingredients. Therefore it is an inferior product. There is no subjectivity involved. Anyone's "tastes" are completely irrelevant.
In conclusion, I agree with your opinion of Budweiser. However, your statement that you "can confidently and objectively state that Budweiser is swill not fit for human consumption" is bullsh*t. Read my other posts carefully this time.
QED.
Originally posted by elohiym chananJust try one you haven't tried before!
Here's your chance to vote for my next beer adventure. Last night I enjoyed my first Boddingtons. A good time was had by all.
What brand should I try next? Of course I am somewhat limited in what may be locally available, but I'll make an effort to get some of the top vote getter.
Vote early! I'm thirsty already!
Then, do it again and so forth, keep notes (mental or otherwise) ignore what the snobs say you should like and enjoy yourself.
PBE6, I have read your posts perfectly. I understand that you do not like Budweiser. But you are quite mistaken in stating that the quality of a beer is a subjective category. It most definitely is NOT. I have used the Reinheitsgebot of 1516 as an objective criteria for what constitutes a quality beer. This is a universally applied standard among people who actually know what they're talking about, as opposed to people who just talk without knowing anything. Rice is most definitely not on the list. Beers that use rice are objectively categorized as swill (or some similar adjective). Once again, people are free to like rice. People are free to like Budweiser. But that does not in any way make it a quality product. After all, people are free to enjoy eating feces, but that does not make it good food.
I do not know anything about whiskey, nor do I care. But I do know that I am well within my rights to ridicule and mock people who drink Budweiser and pretend that they're drinking a quality product. Their right to like it is not under dispute. I too will grudgingly defend that right. But only as long as they recognize and admit that Budweiser is a wretched beer.
Originally posted by widgetThe Unibroue beers are great!
Try anything from Quebec's Unibroue company. Canada!
Their Maudite is unbeatable, all their beers are botled on their yeast and there's a tendency towards extra high strength from double and triple fermentations that also add layers of flavours, much like fine wines.
I bought a couple of Maudite t-shirts before I left, although in truth that is a bit too strong to drink too much of (about 8% I think).
Regarding the Budweiser debate: I always thought that Bud was beer for kids, or for people who don't really like beer, due to its weak taste.
by american standards i think that "tennents lager" hails from a microbrewery. tennents lager must be tasted to be beleived! yes, by common consensus, it is that bad.
i had a rather weird "guest ale" last night-*somethingaruther* Goldihops. it taste of lemonade! and no, it wasn't a shandy. unless they pull them from proper taps?...