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Where In The World Is~~~Kevin Eleven☹️!

Where In The World Is~~~Kevin Eleven☹️!

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@fmf said
What is divegeester here pray tell, in the GF? - Unhinged?

I think he is a good poster who starts good threads.
In light of your predisposition to believe delusional things, do you concede this statement from you might also fall into that camp?

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@divegeester said
No, I don’t.

I agree that religious beliefs can be classified as delusions.
You also agreed with him when he described you as delusional.

Are you going to row back on that?

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
In light of your predisposition to believe delusional things, do you concede this statement from you might also fall into that camp?
Have you ever held any form of religious belief, even when you were younger?

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
You also agreed with him when he described you as delusional.

Are you going to row back on that?
I agree that my own religious beliefs could be described as delusions.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
For 25 years, what was the 'incontrovertible evidence to the contrary' that you were ignoring?
I didn't think my religious beliefs were delusions when I held them during those 25 years.

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@divegeester said
Have you ever held any form of religious belief, even when you were younger?
No, never. I was exposed to Christian beliefs at primary school but never absorbed them. I did though embrace Christian holidays, mostly for the chocolate.

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@fmf said
I didn't think my religious beliefs were delusions when I held them during those 25 years.
But looking back, what was the 'incontrovertible evidence to the contrary' that you were ignoring?

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
No, never.
Do you think that you never having held any form of religious belief is indicative that you are in some way mentally stronger than those people who do, or have in their past, held a form of religious belief?

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
In light of your predisposition to believe delusional things, do you concede this statement from you might also fall into that camp?
No. I think it is fair appraisal of divegeester and it has nothing to do with the religious beliefs I held for 25 years.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
But looking back, what was the 'incontrovertible evidence to the contrary' that you were ignoring?
I am not claiming that I thought I was believing in delusions back when I was religious. It's only now that I perceive that I used to believe in things that were not real.

I don't have "incontrovertible evidence" that Jesus did not rise from the dead but from my perspective the belief that he did is a delusion.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
In light of your predisposition to believe delusional things, do you concede this statement from you might also fall into that camp?
In light of your predisposition to believe delusional things

You think I have a predisposition to believe in delusions in a way that also applies to things that have nothing to do with religion and the supernatural? Is this now your stance?

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@fmf said
In light of your predisposition to believe delusional things

You think I have a predisposition to believe in delusions in a way that also applies to things that have nothing to do with religion and supernatural? Is this now your stance?
He’s “making pizza”…

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@divegeester said
Do you think that you never having held any form of religious belief is indicative that you are in some way mentally stronger than those people who do, or have in their past, held a form of religious belief?
Unlike FMF, I do not classify theists as delusional.

That said, we all share the same basic human desire to want answers as to how we got here and where we are going. (If anywhere). It could be argued that theists willingly accept the wrong answers while atheists soldier on in pursuit of the right answers, and forgo the hope of immortality that most religions would afford them.

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@fmf said
No. I think it is fair appraisal of divegeester and it has nothing to do with the religious beliefs I held for 25 years.
But in 25 years time you might suddenly realise you were wrong about Dive being a good poster.

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@fmf said
I am not claiming that I thought I was believing in delusions back when I was religious. It's only now that I perceive that I used to believe in things that were not real.

I don't have "incontrovertible evidence" that Jesus did not rise from the dead but from my perspective the belief that he did is a delusion.
You are misunderstanding the nature of a delusion, even in the every day sense.

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