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I run the ANCL league on playchess the average rating of a player in it is 1800, about 90% of 1800+ players in the league do have clubs and real life ratings. Everyone of the 2000s+ do have clubs, if you are going to be serious enough about chess to get to 2000 ability it seems logical that you'd be serious enough to join a club etc.
I dont think club play is required for 2000+ but regular play against players of that level is a must.
I have more than 10 years playing chess, and I had no idea what OTB was(of course english is not my language), until I saw it a lot here and googled it.
For a player to be rated 2000 I guess he must be at least in contact with a certain group of chess players, not necesarely a club, since in some cityes there are not, like in my city we dont have clubs but we join to play a lot, and I am sure some of the players must be 2000+.
Originally posted by SupermanCan we say that the Hypothetical person is American, or Brittish. . .just to kill the confusion of the OTB thing.
I have more than 10 years playing chess, and I had no idea what OTB was(of course english is not my language), until I saw it a lot here and googled it.
For a player to be rated 2000 I guess he must be at least in contact with a certain group of chess players, not necesarely a club, since in some cityes there are not, like in my city we dont have clubs but we join to play a lot, and I am sure some of the players must be 2000+.
of course it is possible to become 2000 without playing OTB. although if they are 2000 online they may be 1800 on a real chess board because visualizing a chess game on the board is much harder than on the internet. i would say it is possible. i'd say someone may even become stronger by playing online because you can find people that are 2000 and above easily. i think it depends on a couple factors, such as learning ability, your ability to study, and learn from your mistakes. there are others but those are some major ones. why do you want to focus on getting to 2000 so much? i would like to reach 2000 but first you have to reach lower levels such as 1500 and 1600. i find it easier for me to pick a rating i would like to be at which is capable say 30 points higher and when you get there you start to play higher opponents. make small goals that help you get to your ultimate goal.
people seem to have a very high opinion of the 2000 barrier. I am not part of a chess club and have never really played a serious game OTB, but my online ratings are quite high and I have beaten titled players. However after glancing at this game, it seems to me that to have a high agreement with fritz is slightly suspicious, because black was clearly a competant player, and yet he willingly traded into a drawn bishop ending. Humans would know this, but a computer would make the trades thinking it has the advantage, when the reality is that this will never be realised (until white blundered and traded bishops).
Let me tell you of a first-hand experience of mine. There's this guy who's a taxi driver. He's been a taxi driver for years and years. Since he came to my country (from Indonesia) many years ago, he's been playing frequently with other taxi drivers while waiting for passengers. Over the years he got stronger and stronger. Then some club players heard of him and started playing him. He never had any formal training in the game and yet he was able to beat most of the club players with good ratings. He didn't know OTB; and he lost a couple of his earlier games against the club players because he kept forgetting on 'en passant'. Now he's learned more and even better at the game. I'm sure if he's ever rated, he'd be easily 1800-2000.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundI'm from Ireland and had never heard of 'OTB' as a term until I saw it here. I also play OTB 😉 for the record. I wouldn't put much store in that part of your evidence.
Can we say that the Hypothetical person is American, or Brittish. . .just to kill the confusion of the OTB thing.
i once played a guy in a small village in indonesia ... he hardly ever played chess, definitely at no club, knew little about it - but he completely anihilated me 3 times in a row ... i wrote the moves down afterwards and analysed the games over and over. i never found a single flaw in his play.
i asked him afterwards ... why?
his best friend who he played with as a little kid is now a gm, and used him as a punching bag.
Originally posted by SchumiI'm from Canada and I originally thought people were abbreviating "off track betting" until it became clear that they were not referring to horse racing.
I'm from Ireland and had never heard of 'OTB' as a term until I saw it here. I also play OTB 😉 for the record. I wouldn't put much store in that part of your evidence.