Originally posted by GatecrasherThis is so interesting, and particularly topical in the light of the recent "trial by angry mob" that we have experienced here. Thanks for posting this, Gatecrasher.
Judging by the number of complaints we received about that user, it seems the whole RHP community was convinced he was a cheat. This is the same community, by the way, that was convinced that "Jean Herbert" was the real deal (ie not one complaint received, despite being rated 2360 and having won virtually all his games).
Overwhelming evidence beyond erformed a very thorough investigation and the required standard for banning was not reached.
EveRyDay was lampooned in this very forum by a large number of people who were "convinced" of his guilt, called him out into the public forum and then picked him up of his every word - even though he was Hungarian. It was quite an embarrassing thing to watch. He was very vocal in the Chess Club forum and showed what seemed to me like a very sound knowledge of chess and analysis -without sounding like reading from Fritz. OF course, I would not really be able to tell from moves, but from the way he "talked" about chess he very much came across in private as a knowledgeable strong chess player (yet perhaps naive in his use of public forums) - he soon learned to avoid posting in the public forums and I am not surprised that he left the site eventually. I understand that he got quite harrassed via PM too. Such a shame.
What is also interesting is the posts here going back a few pages on this subject - you lot really should learn not to mis-quote:
"I heard that .... " and then passing it off as the real quote.
Perhaps those posting there should listen to Korch more.
Originally posted by wormwoodJust to prove a point.....
he also did rock solid moves against top players in seconds, and claimed to calculate tactics faster than engines. good riddance!
Originally posted by Korch
I would add that there are some kind of tactics which experienced human player may notice faster than engine. Not because calculating ability, but because of experience, knowing typical methods in definite positions.
Thanks Korch.
Wormwood, you really showed your ignorance here.
Regarding engine use, the only thing that matters is the moves on the board.
Too bad a thread like this gets so many posts whereas when a strong player such as Stephane annotates a game, his thread only generates a few comments. Yes I did not comment on the game either but the game and comments to me made the game relatively straightforward and I am fairly proficient at analysis. But how many people that visit the chess forum seriously analyzed the game? Maybe the lack of comments is because Stefan's ideas and thoughts were absolutely right in the game but ok a strong player will not wish to visit the chess forum if there are not interesting chess ideas there. Stefan has proven himself stronger than Fritz on at least a few occasions so maybe people are not so capable of analyzing his play but no comment implies either that everybody completely understands the ideas or a general lack of interest and I expect few fully understand his ideas so more likely this apathy exists but this is the chess forum so that is disappointing; an apathetic forum atmosphere is only a deterrent to sharing chess ideas as creating a written analysis of one's own thoughts and ideas can be somewhat tedious and pointless work. After all, the person who writes the annotations is the one who played the game! Anyway, people who serious in getting better in anything knows what it takes to improve – disciplined study of games so as to truly understand what is going on so one can come to emulate master play and that doesn’t require visiting the forums to get there. An interesting study would be to see how seriously some forum posters study chess. But the result of determining chess understanding of any chess player would indicate this; all chess understanding of people is superficial to some degree [ except sometimes for Weyerstrass whom on many occasion plays like a chess god and many levels above anybody else on this site. ] By superficiality, for instance I mean, are you posting in the chess forum to boost someone else’s ego or your own? Because I cannot imagine that a lot of what people post is especially constructive, at least in this thread. But I know that forum posting can be as addictive as anything else so I can see why people post.
Ok, some superficiality is ok, people are not entirely self-sufficient islands but social beings, and camaraderie as can exist on the internet is partly what the forums are about. The camaraderie is ok, now more chess ideas! 🙂
Originally posted by GatecrasherMary Ann User 178280 was banned when it was quite obvious that " she " was a cheater ... and she did 21,406 moves !!!
Judging by the number of complaints we received about that user, it seems the whole RHP community was convinced he was a cheat. This is the same community, by the way, that was convinced that "Jean Herbert" was the real deal (ie not one complaint received, despite being rated 2360 and having won virtually all his games).
Overwhelming evidence beyond ...[text shortened]... erformed a very thorough investigation and the required standard for banning was not reached.
Originally posted by Korchyeap, i was wrong the amazing quote was about tactic and sacrifice, not strategy :
Actually that guy was accused as cheater long before he started to post at all. And it was obvious that some people interpreted his texts as they wanted to see them.
Everyday wrote on 21 Apr '07 18:20 Thread 67133 page 4:
" About tactics... Someone has serious problems with defining things. It might be me... But for me a combination that wins material is not tactics. Tactics is when you sacrifice something for your long term plans without instant material regain. "
some people try to explain he was hungarian and english was not his first language so he can misquote tactic, strategy, sacrifice, combination ...
to Korch and Hindstein:
Everyday wrote on 21 Apr '07 18:20 Thread 67133
page 4:
" About tactics... Someone has serious problems with defining things. It might be me... But for me a combination that wins material is not tactics. Tactics is when you sacrifice something for your long term plans without instant material regain. "
some people try to explain he was hungarian and english was not his first language so he can misquote tactic, strategy, sacrifice, combination ...
in hungarian these words are : taktika, stratégia, áldozat, kombináció
Originally posted by zintierivBecause of your definition of tactics differ it does not mean that he understands chess less than you 😛
to Korch and Hindstein:
Everyday wrote on 21 Apr '07 18:20 Thread 67133
page 4:
" About tactics... Someone has serious problems with defining things. It might be me... But for me a combination that wins material is not tactics. Tactics is when you sacrifice something for your long term plans without instant material regain. "
som ...[text shortened]... ce, combination ...
in hungarian these words are : taktika, stratégia, áldozat, kombináció
For example many great players have given different definitions to word "combination". But I wont call Lasker patzer only because his definition differs from definition of Botvinnik.
P.S. Also even if he was cheater he definitely cant be patzer as patzer would not be able to avoid ban, being checked by mods for so long time. So your tries to prove that he was patzer is not serious.
Originally posted by KorchYes, but their definitions were at least close...his definition is completely backwards.
Because of your definition of tactics differ it does not mean that he understands chess less than you 😛
For example many great players have given different definitions to word "combination". But I wont call Lasker patzer only because his definition differs from definition of Botvinnik.
Originally posted by KorchYes...lasker left out the part about sacrificing in his definition and Botvinnik added the sacrificing part to it...I won't go rooting up the actual quotes but I am pretty sure on this...at least they weren't completely backwards of each other. 😛
Really? Do you know definition of Lasker and Botvinnik?
Originally posted by Yugathanks Yuga for your post ...
An interesting study would be to see how seriously some forum posters study chess. But the result of determining chess understanding of any chess player would indicate this; all chess understanding of people is superficial to some degree [ except sometimes for Weyerstrass whom on many occasion plays like a chess god and many levels above anybody else on this site. ]
Weyerstrass plays almost 10 moves each day since he started to play here :
Weyerstrass 9,9140 moves each day
Akizy 5,2613
Seadevil 15,4322
so even an excellent player needs time to play carefully ...
its not amazing that others players can make 100 or more moves everyday without mistakes ?
Originally posted by zintierivWhat players on here that make hundreds have beaten Weyerstrass? And how many of those players that have played him have lost the majority of their games with him? Wouldn't that mean that they are indeed making mistakes?
thanks Yuga for your post ...
Weyerstrass plays almost 10 moves each day since he started to play here :
Weyerstrass 9,9140 moves each day
Akizy 5,2613
Seadevil 15,4322
so even an excellent player needs time to play carefully ...
its not amazing that others players can make 100 or more moves everyday without mistakes ?
Originally posted by Korchwhen i said he was a patzer ?
Because of your definition of tactics differ it does not mean that he understands chess less than you 😛
For example many great players have given different definitions to word "combination". But I wont call Lasker patzer only because his definition differs from definition of Botvinnik.
P.S. Also even if he was cheater he definitely cant be patzer as pat ...[text shortened]... ng checked by mods for so long time. So your tries to prove that he was patzer is not serious.
but yeah i cannot believe he could do what he did just in 8 months playing here
Originally posted by zintierivIt depends on opposition - if you would look at his games then you would see that about 90% of them are against much weaker opposition. And as I have pointed out before - against weaker opposition its no problem to play quickly and win.
thanks Yuga for your post ...
Weyerstrass plays almost 10 moves each day since he started to play here :
Weyerstrass 9,9140 moves each day
Akizy 5,2613
Seadevil 15,4322
so even an excellent player needs time to play carefully ...
its not amazing that others players can make 100 or more moves everyday without mistakes ?