Jean Hebert banned

Originally posted by cmsMaster
The one thing I don't get is as follows.

I clearly remember a story of a 1400 asking Hebert why he traded his rook for a bishop. This player claimed that Hebert explained this extremely well to him etc.,etc.. I simply don't get how an engine user could possible be able to do this.

(I'm sure the thread is still lurking around somewhere.)

Originally posted by Shinidoki
You could trick someone....

I.e lets assume that our herbie was a fake and uses Fruit {engine}

but...without help he is a 1500 player....


you play a game and you ask why he played "X" - he could explain, and with computer analyis and his own (weakish) abilty could explain why this is a good move.

Originally posted by Shinidoki
but...without help he is a 1500 player....


you play a game and you ask why he played "X" - he could explain, and with computer analyis and his own (weakish) abilty could explain why this is a good move.

As the '600 points his junior' player in question, I have no doubt that this guy was of IM standard.

During the game in which his crisis of confidence occurred, we were exchanging opinions of the various moves as we went along.

We arrived at a point in the game where he could have followed a Kasparov-Shirov game (I think), and he remarked that he wasn't going to follow this and instead followed Kasparov's recommendation. He clearly understood the position and its various subtelties and its history.

Unfortunately, I was in possesion of a recent book which had some analysis which showed that Kasparov's suggestion wasn't great for Black either.

But the point is that he wasn't a 1400 player running Fritz - he understood the position, he understood how it had been played before, and he was just unlucky that I was a bit more up to date.

Similarly, we'd had an earlier game - a really wild, tactical mess of a game. I'd put a lot of work into it, and found my way through the tactics and we ended up drawing. He was immediately able to point out ideas that he had considered, that I should have considered etc etc. Again - he fully understood the position.

I don't know how he came to resort to engine use, but I've no doubt he was IM strength without it, and so it is reasonable to conclude he was the 'real' Jean H.

Originally posted by wormwood
people here are often very convincing with their chess talk. I'm often surprised when I see someone spit out lines and talk about theory and weaknesses in a position etc. far more confidently that I ever could. and when I check their rating, it's maybe 1400.

Originally posted by marinakatomb
Has anyone considered that he might have actually been Jean Herbert [b]and used an engine? It's possible...[/b]

Biggest argument for it not being the real Hebert, aside from the phony accent, is that it's hard to imagine a person of Heberts stature cheating......why would he risk the embarrassment?

"In Chess Today (Issue 1522) Jean Hebert commented:

"12.Qb1 is more natural to defend d3 but it also leads to nothing: 12...Ng4 13.Bxg4 Bxg4 14.Nc4 Qd3 15.Nd6 b6"

So, maybe 14...Qd3 (?) Apologies for being slow with looking at this. I just returned home after Kharkov and Bucharest (visited Topalov vs Nisipeanu match)."

Originally posted by Bedlam
"In Chess Today (Issue 1522) Jean Hebert commented:

"12.Qb1 is more natural to defend d3 but it also leads to nothing: 12...Ng4 13.Bxg4 Bxg4 14.Nc4 Qd3 15.Nd6 b6"

So, maybe 14...Qd3 (?) Apologies for being slow with looking at this. I just returned home after Kharkov and Bucharest (visited Topalov vs Nisipeanu match)."

Originally posted by Red Night
...I find Red Mike's comments to be very persuasive, that the guy was a very knowledgeable player.

I emailed jean hébert today, and he just got back to me:

"Hello,

Thank you for letting me know that someone has borrowed my name. I have never played on that site. I am curious to know who might be that person using my name but I guess there is no sure way to find out.

Best regards,

Jean Hébert"


I think that settles it.

Originally posted by wormwood
I emailed jean hébert today, and he just got back to me:

"Hello,

Thank you for letting me know that someone has borrowed my name. I have never played on that site. I am curious to know who might be that person using my name but I guess there is no sure way to find out.

Best regards,

Jean Hébert"


I think that settles it.

Originally posted by Red Night
Did you really get in touch with Jean Hebert?

Originally posted by General Putzer
I recall a thread where someone mentioned that monsieur heberts broken English seemed a bit thick for someone that is a well known chess journalist, and thought it was so overblown that he was an obvious phony. That person got reamed and his posts were deleted later.
Funny!

Originally posted by wormwood
well, I emailed to the adress given by Fédération québécoise des échecs, and he answered a couple of hours later. I have no reason to believe it wasn't him.

surprisingly easy.