One move a day (4)

clandarkfire

Grammar Nazi

Only Chess

04 Mar 08 04:10

jockmcgee

Ganbei!

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13 Mar 08 20:30

1 edit

I seem to have thoroughly lost this one, so I'll cover myself and say that I'm only putting this out there for consideration, but what's wrong with Qh5?

Edit: Ignore me... This is just not my thread 😳

Mephisto2

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Moves: 44411

13 Mar 08 21:03

Originally posted by jockmcgee
I seem to have thoroughly lost this one, so I'll cover myself and say that I'm only putting this out there for consideration, but what's wrong with Qh5?

Edit: Ignore me... This is just not my thread 😳

Assuming you are talking about 6.Qd5 Qh5 7.g3 Nxg3 8.Qxf7+ Kd8, then 9.Nf3 wins the knight (or more), for instance :
- Qg4 (best try) 10.fxe4 (covers the knight) Qe4+ 11.Kd1!
- Qf6 10.hxg3
- Qh5 or Qh3 10.Qxg7

jockmcgee

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13 Mar 08 21:10

Originally posted by Mephisto2
Assuming you are talking about 6.Qd5 Qh5 7.g3 Nxg3 8.Qxf7+ Kd8, then 9.Nf3 wins the knight (or more), for instance :
- Qg4 (best try) 10.fxe4 (covers the knight) Qe4+ 11.Kd1!
- Qf6 10.hxg3
- Qh5 or Qh3 10.Qxg7

Qh5 isn't an option for black? Tragically, I mean 6. Qh5 thinking the mate threat would still win the knight in the end, but as 6. ... 0-0 is an answer. Clearly I'm not thinking right today. Must be a good day to play me!

clandarkfire

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Auschwitz

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13 Mar 08 21:51

1 edit

1.e4.......e5
2.Nc3.....Nf6
3.Bc4.....Bb4
4.f4.......bxc3
5.dxc3...Nxe4
6.Bxf7+

jockmcgee

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13 Mar 08 21:59

Right! A chance to redeem myself, 6. ... Kxf7 7. Qd5 Kf8 8. Qxe4 (then since the e5 pawn can't seem to be defended) d5 9. Qxe5 Nc6 10. Move the queen, then black can bring the bishop out and crack on with development... But I'd still rather be white.

clandarkfire

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Auschwitz

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15 Mar 08 00:30

2 edits

1.e4.......e5
2.Nc3.....Nf6
3.Bc4.....Bb4
4.f4.......bxc3
5.dxc3...Nxe4
6.Bxf7+ Kxf7

Red Night

RHP Prophet

pursuing happiness

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Moves: 13669

15 Mar 08 00:43

Originally posted by clandarkfire
1.e4.......e5
2.Nc3.....Nf6
3.Bc4.....Bb4
4.f4.......bxc3
5.dxc3...Nxe4
6.Bxf7+ Kxf7

[fen]rnbq3r/pppp1kpp/8/4p3/4nP2/2P5/PPP3PP/R1BQK1NR[/fen]

I'm guessing Qd5+

chessicle

The Chessicle

Scotland?

Joined: 19 Feb 05
Moves: 183140

15 Mar 08 02:40

Originally posted by clandarkfire
1.e4.......e5
2.Nc3.....Nf6
3.Bc4.....Bb4
4.f4.......bxc3
5.dxc3...Nxe4
6.Bxf7+ Kxf7

[fen]rnbq3r/pppp1kpp/8/4p3/4nP2/2P5/PPP3PP/R1BQK1NR[/fen]

7 Qd5+

jockmcgee

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15 Mar 08 11:01

7. Qd5+

Bifrost

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15 Mar 08 11:22

At last!
Qd5+ is clearly (imo, may have missed something) the best move in this position.

clandarkfire

Grammar Nazi

Auschwitz

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16 Mar 08 05:25

1.e4.......e5
2.Nc3.....Nf6
3.Bc4.....Bb4
4.f4.......bxc3
5.dxc3...Nxe4
6.Bxf7+..Kxf7
7.Qd5+

jockmcgee

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16 Mar 08 08:28

I'm going to stick with 7. ... Kf8

clandarkfire

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18 Mar 08 03:34

1.e4.......e5
2.Nc3.....Nf6
3.Bc4.....Bb4
4.f4.......bxc3
5.dxc3...Nxe4
6.Bxf7+..Kxf7
7.Qd5+..Ke8

Bifrost

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Moves: 412

18 Mar 08 18:41

Qxe5+ forces an exchange of queens with a better position for White.

kbaumen

Sigulda, Latvia

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18 Mar 08 18:43

1 edit

Originally posted by Bifrost
Qxe5+ forces an exchange of queens with a better position for White.

Remember that white is a piece down, so I think it's better to recapture it, hence Qxe4. The pawn can be captured later.