Originally posted by lightfallsupAfter giving a quick glance to the game I suppose you are referring to, I can't comment on it because it is in progress.
i've only been playing here for a few months (i used to play on gameknot), and one of the things i've noticed is that the most common strategem here on this site (it's happened in 20% of my games) is that when it's clear you can no longer win you just perpetually put the player who is about to win in check so taht they may not deliver the final blow. n ...[text shortened]... that might let them feel like they didn't lose a match they did.
any thoughts?
But it reveals a lack of chess practice. Please don't take offense, but don't charge against your opponent. If one is to blame is you.
Enough said.
I think this discussion is embarrassing of behalf of lightfallsup.
I usually aim for a win. If win is not within reach I aim for a draw. If I can't have find the draw then I lose the game. Simple as that.
It is not unsportmanny or ungentlemanny to strive for a draw in any situation. It's a part of the game and is of course within the rules of chess.
Whining, on the other hand, is only embarrassing.
Originally posted by SquelchbelchCheck this game out.My opponent takes the maximum amount of allowable time to make a move in a no win/draw situation. This is really annoying i cant start another game.Game 2794967
What's more annoying is when you're beating someone up badly & they take the absolute maximum to make any move whatsoever.
Say you're a whole piece up & about to enter the endgame & they push their king around after 3 days between moves.
No doubt hoping you'll resign the game in disgust!
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I am currently playing a game where I was in a situation where I would have been able to win a lot of material, but I saw in the last moment that my opponent would be able to give me a perpetual if I did. It's part of the beauty of chess that you can sometimes win or draw even if you are severely down on material, and that means you have to learn not to become overconfident when you are up in material, and not to grab pieces without thinking it through. If I had missed the perpetual, I certainly wouldn't have blamed my opponent, but only myself, because I should have seen it coming.
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Originally posted by lightfallsupHey look at this game, I was getting beat, but I was unethical and managed to force a stalemate!
i've only been playing here for a few months (i used to play on gameknot), and one of the things i've noticed is that the most common strategem here on this site (it's happened in 20% of my games) is that when it's clear you can no longer win you just perpetually put the player who is about to win in check so taht they may not deliver the final blow. n that might let them feel like they didn't lose a match they did.
any thoughts?
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lighfallsup, I hope you accept that there are all sorts of legitimate tactics to gain a draw from a lost position. In the same way you can win from a drawn position. There are a lot of experienced chess players who are confirming that this is the case.
I'll pass on some advice that I received years ago.
Q. Why is my opponent continuing from a lost position?
A. Because they are trying to get something from the game, a win or a draw, it's up to you to prove that you can finish them off (without falling to one of the many many ways that they can gain a draw).
Originally posted by lightfallsupThe game in question is Game 2507347 but no comments as in progress, except that I can see nothing unethical about what either side is doing here. In fact black is doing exactly what I would do in the same circumstances.
i've only been playing here for a few months (i used to play on gameknot), and one of the things i've noticed is that the most common strategem here on this site (it's happened in 20% of my games) is that when it's clear you can no longer win you just perpetually put the player who is about to win in check so taht they may not deliver the final blow. n that might let them feel like they didn't lose a match they did.
any thoughts?
I certainly would not resign as white has not demonstrated an ability to win this game.
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Originally posted by Dragon FireExactly, in fact there are only 3 ways to win a game (Unless I've missed something out).
The game in question is Game 2507347 but [b]no comments as in progress, except that I can see nothing unethical about what either side is doing here. In fact black is doing exactly what I would do in the same circumstances.
I certainly would not resign as white has not demonstrated an ability to win this game.[/b]
1) Checkmate your opponent
2) Your opponent resigns
3) You timeout your opponent (Or flag falls in regular chess)
Until one of these three things happen, anything else can happen!
and yet no one has presented anything new than to say "it is not illegal, so therefor it is a kind of moral obligation". i played more than 5,000 games on gameknot and this situation did not occur once. it has occured multiple times here in only like 20 games.
i have said numerous times that i understand other postions, i just disagree with them.
you're not going to convince me that i am not allowed to have my own view of how the game should be played. you are clearly also not understanding what i am saying. that's okay. it's not your fault.
as i said before, i don't expect everyone to play with the same standards as me. i just want to play against people who do is all.
it's not a biggie, i just have to begin asking people at the begginning of the game what their view of how the game should be played is and decide from there if i want to play them.
either way, this dialogue is useless. like i said, you are all incapable of convincing me that this is standard since i have never had this experience anywhere but on this site. in no live games, in no tournaments, and not on gameknot despite playing a great many games.
that does mean, however you would prefer to see it, that there is a substantial portion of the chess playing population that does not play the way you describe. you could argue that every single one of them is wrong and you folks here on this site hold the exclusively right view on how chess should be played, but seriously, that's just rediculous.
no need to say anymore.
Originally posted by lightfallsupSo you don't consider people like Kasparov or Kramnik to be true chess enthusiasts? You are entitled to your opinion, but don't expect many people to agree with you.
i just disagree. i would not do it in a game, and i consider no one who does it to be a true chess enthusiast.
Originally posted by lightfallsupGood luck in finding people who meet your criteria on how the game should be played.
and yet no one has presented anything new than to say "it is not illegal, so therefor it is a kind of moral obligation". i played more than 5,000 games on gameknot and this situation did not occur once. it has occured multiple times here in only like 20 games.
i have said numerous times that i understand other postions, i just disagree with them. ...[text shortened]... hess should be played, but seriously, that's just rediculous.
no need to say anymore.