Originally posted by XanthosNZThat's exactly what I'm saying. I don't want to deal with people like this. It's not so much that I'm not getting my way as it is that I can tell these people are going to continue to be illogical down the road.
Also: Wah wah I'm not getting my own way, I'm going home.
Screw you guys, I'm going home.
Fritz may be able to transpose if we play a3, but it seems unlikely, because we're a move up. But I'm okay with d4 too. Actually, I'm okay with anything but f4, f3 and e4.
And playing black openings a tempo up isn't always better like it sounds. Also, why play black openings when we can play white ones. And as for getting out of the book as soon as possible: the computer doesn't play stupid moves just because it's out of the book, we can use books too, I say we stay with the book for a bit and leave it when it suits us and the move seems logical instead of making bad moves just in the hope the the computer messes up which it probably won't. I've said it before, there is a reason why the "book" moves are the ones in the books. And yes I know the computer's opening book isn't the same as the chess books we use, so don't even say it.
Voting is voting . One can't insult another's vote . We want to see which move is best by reading many opinions . In here , we can't use the quote (one good brain beats ten dumb brains) becuase we all here think logiclly and have our own positive point of views so please don't say one move is definetely the best becuase everyone has their own opinion . And , skims , I will be posting board positions , but what's the point in posting a board poistion before any move has been made , if you know the chessboard really well. And , a person may only be allowed one vote at max because voting gets a bit more complicated at that point.
4 for 1. e4
4 for 1. d4
Warning : I am adjusting the time a bit which reduces our thinking time. Sorry for the inconvienience .
Note : Please correct me if I make any vote counting mistakes.
I noticed it's a tie between 1. e4 and 1. d4. My experience playing against the computer on full strenght is that you don't want to get to tactical. Keep the game strategic and you may have a chance at drawing the game. So 1. e4 isn't going to work. The logical next choice is 1. d4. Gets a share of the centre and keeps some options open. 1. a3 gives us nothing as Fritz can decide for himself to open the game. So 1. d4 it is.
I hope all the people who voted for the first move will vote for the next set of moves too. The only way a game like this is interesting is when a lot op people participate.
--SEVES
edit: double post. I vote for 1. d4 so it's a tie again
Originally posted by SicilianNajdorfThe board positions was only a suggestion.
Voting is voting . One can't insult another's vote . We want to see which move is best by reading many opinions . In here , we can't use the quote (one good brain beats ten dumb brains) becuase we all here think logiclly and have our own positive point of views so please don't say one move is definetely the best becuase everyone has their own opi ...[text shortened]... . Sorry for the inconvienience .
Note : Please correct me if I make any vote counting mistakes.
I wasn't saying that you should post the initial position here - I was only suggesting that after each move a display board be posted to help keep track of the current position.
Thank you.
skims.😀
P.S. I change my vote to 1.d4
8 for 1.d4
4 for 1. e4
Also , remember that if we have only 1 move to play , I will automaticlly give it to Fritz 9 becuase there is no point in starting a vote on a move with only one choice.
About a3 : A computer was tacticlly designed to play the best move by analyzing all the possible moves with different combinations , and judging which one represents the most favourable outcome , that doesn't mean that a3 will get it out of its opening book . A computer has an opening book for every move.It will obviously play very well against the idiotic Anderssen defence which we only played to get it out of its book , but it doesn't work against a computer . A computer still knows the full Petroff and Philidor defence after 1.a3 so believe me , those of you who think about idiotic votes , I may not add to the voting list .
1. If we have a chance to capture Fritz's queen but one guy voted something else , if he does that , I will add it to the voting list becuase he may have another plan , but if it is a forced move,then
I will not start a vote until Fritz 9 finishes playing his next move.
And I don't think for now there will be much equality on who wins the vote now unless all of you change your minds,(although I doubt that would happen) so I am voting now and I vote 1.d4 personally ,which makes it
9 for 1.d4
4 for 1.e4