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I gave the Scotch consideration - still am a bit, but don't think I like the positions as much as the Ruy ones - things are more open generally, but still...eh. *unsure*

BTW: It's a very similar situation with me and the KG, I don't necessarily think white is any better in the Ruy, but it's definitely more sound and I want something that I can play without risk as early as move two. I can still call on the KG whenever I need it and probably get a pretty nice position.

I couldn't help but think of Pokemon when I wrote about being able to call on the KG, almost gave me a chuckle. 😉

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
I gave the Scotch consideration - still am a bit, but don't think I like the positions as much as the Ruy ones - things are more open generally, but still...eh. *unsure*

BTW: It's a very similar situation with me and the KG, I don't necessarily think white is any better in the Ruy, but it's definitely more sound and I want something that I can play with ...[text shortened]... nk of Pokemon when I wrote about being able to call on the KG, almost gave me a chuckle. 😉
I have hardly ever faced the Scotch OTB. Here quite a few people play it but with assistance from my trusty openings book I seem to be okay as black. Haven't kept separate stats.

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
I have hardly ever faced the Scotch OTB. Here quite a few people play it but with assistance from my trusty openings book I seem to be okay as black. Haven't kept separate stats.
I think most 1...e5 players neglect studying the Scotch and the KG which are both major options for white and instead elect to study only Ruy lines and Two Knights (Or GP) lines.

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CMS master you finally found out the Kings gambit sucks and the rruy lopez is the best. I am very proud of you.

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
What am I supposed to be seeing here?
Hmm, it looks like most of the content is actually in his yahoo group. Anyway Brian Wall is a USCF life master who plays the "fishing pole" against the Roy.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc3
3. Bb5 Nf6
4. 0-0 Ng5

Someone else posted something about it in this forum a while ago, but I'm too lazy to search.

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Originally posted by jonzzzz
CMS master you finally found out the Kings gambit sucks and the rruy lopez is the best. I am very proud of you.
Wow, you're an idiot. As far as I'm concerned the Ruy is no better than the KG. I just wanted to add something to my repertoire that didn't require playing a pawn down from the start - even if there is compensation a lot of times. The Ruy has the advantage of being super solid, so I can play it if I am playing in a game where I don't like taking many risks, I also just generally have a hard time playing only three openings - so I've added one. In any case I think I probably play much better with the KG, and have a better chance of winning with it. For example - against an opponent who had just beat me two games in a row....


[Event "Rated game, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Main Playing Hall"]
[Date "2006.11.18"]
[Round "?"]
[White "CMSMaster"]
[Black "Kristjan_niundi"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C34"]
[WhiteElo "1338"]
[BlackElo "1369"]
[PlyCount "29"]
[EventDate "2006.11.19"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. e4 {0} e5 {4} 2. f4 {1} exf4 {2} 3. Nf3 {0} d6 {1} 4. Bc4 {2} h6 {3} 5. d4 {
2} Be6 {3} 6. Bxe6 {2} fxe6 {1} 7. O-O {1} Nd7 {7} 8. Bxf4 {1} Ngf6 {3} 9. Nc3
{3} Be7 {2} 10. Nh4 {2} Nxe4 {8} 11. Qh5+ {2} Kf8 {13} 12. Be5+ {6} Kg8 {2} 13.
Qf7+ {2} Kh7 {1} 14. Qg6+ {4} Kg8 {2} 15. Qxg7# {(Lag: Av=0.65s, max=1.0s) 1}
1-0

Smashed.

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At the very highest levels the RL is sounder than KG isn't it?

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Originally posted by Squelchbelch
At the very highest levels the RL is sounder than KG isn't it?
Sounder maybe? More fun, never!

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This Ruy was fun at my level:

Game 2781914

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
Sounder maybe? More fun, never!
I like them both, and I'll play both depending on my mood and how well booked my opponent probably is. Of course, they usually get taken out of book with my 9.d4 or 8.a4.

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Most people usually kick 3.Bb5 away with 3...a6 and then maybe 4...b5. I tend to just consolidate after that & it can get very complex.

I much prefer KGA. I usually play knight's as I think it's slightly safer.
Have real problems against 3...d6 4.d4...g5 defending f4 & giving black counter-play as here : Game 2615140

I know this is a thread about the Spanish Opening, but what's the best play against that KGA defence? I'd really appreciate any help.🙂

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Originally posted by Squelchbelch
Most people usually kick 3.Bb5 away with 3...a6 and then maybe 4...b5. I tend to just consolidate after that & it can get very complex.

I much prefer KGA. I usually play knight's as I think it's slightly safer.
Have real problems against 3...d6 4.d4...g5 defending f4 & giving black counter-play as here : Game 2615140

I know this is a thre ...[text shortened]... ening, but what's the best play against that KGA defence? I'd really appreciate any help.🙂
You'll have to search the forums, there are quite a few threads devoted to the KG, I really should bookmark them - bump them if you find them. I know one is over 100 posts long.

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
You'll have to search the forums, there are quite a few threads devoted to the KG, I really should bookmark them - bump them if you find them. I know one is over 100 posts long.
Ok, I did a search of the forums for the King's Gambit, here are some things that showed up and are possibly worthwhile...

Thread 50664
Thread 55849
Thread 54812
Thread 51368
Thread 10820
Thread 51354
Thread 51831
Thread 51459
Thread 52998
Thread 37416
Thread 50040


Note that some talk about openings or gambits in general.

The following may actually be more helpful....

Tournament 1319

Clan 24529

Thread 44257

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