20 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterThe fact that move 14 loses outright to.....
um..little boy....your mommas calling you...take your hand away from your thingee, and go eat lunch.
still waiting for PROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
{-2.41/11}) ({Rybka 1.01 Beta 10 32-bit:}
14... Kf8 15. Bf4 Qb6 16. Ne4 Nxe4 17. Qd3 Nf6 18. Rab1 Rd8 {-2.41/12})
From move 10 till 17 whites game gets worse and worse according to Fritz9, Junior9, Hiarcs10 and Rykba10.
On move 18 white misses a clear change to win and instead plays the very unengine like move of f3 leaving him with a clear disadvantage instead of Qxc5 (which any engine would) with a clear advantage
Please tell me how someone playing chess with those errors in it could be an engine?
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterI haven't analysed the game in question, but whitedeerwithnohorns has the leaast "engine-like" graph I have ever seen. Moreover he has given very strong evidence, while you have produced nothing to the contrary.
um..little boy....your mommas calling you...take your hand away from your thingee, and go eat lunch.
still waiting for PROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And to accuse him of trolling is just silly.
20 Jan 06
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Originally posted by whitedeerwithnohornsand whose analysis is this? yours? ha!
[b]The fact that move 14 loses outright to.....
{-2.41/11}) ({Rybka 1.01 Beta 10 32-bit:}
14... Kf8 15. Bf4 Qb6 16. Ne4 Nxe4 17. Qd3 Nf6 18. Rab1 Rd8 {-2.41/12})
From move 10 till 17 whites game gets worse and worse according to Fritz9, Junior9, Hiarcs10 and Rykba10.
On move 18 white misses a clear change to win and instead plays ...[text shortened]... tage
Please tell me how someone playing chess with those errors in it could be an engine?[/b]
like i said, anyone can use an engine at anytime, for any amount of moves.
I see computer like moves, and im calling him on this. Stay out of it troll
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterYou are making accusations in a public forum, which is against the express will of the site owners.
and whose analysis is this? yours? ha!
like i said, anyone can use an engine at anytime, for any amount of moves.
I see computer like moves, and im calling him on this. Stay out of it troll
You clearly don't know what a "troll" is.
You seem to think the onus of evidence is on you opponent, which it is not; nevertheless, he has provided that evidence. You have provided none.
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterWhich moves are computer like? I dont really expect you can answer that but watching you dodge it will be amusing.
and whose analysis is this? yours? ha!
like i said, anyone can use an engine at anytime, for any amount of moves.
I see computer like moves, and im calling him on this. Stay out of it troll
I'll think i'll stay in this thank you very much.
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by dottewellwhy dont people read the whole thread? Im not acussing this child of anything, except mindless rebutal to my post
I haven't analysed the game in question, but whitedeerwithnohorns has the leaast "engine-like" graph I have ever seen. Moreover he has given very strong evidence, while you have produced nothing to the contrary.
And to accuse him of trolling is just silly.
I posted a game of someone im playing now.
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by whitedeerwithnohornsthe more i see you defending this person, the more i think you yourself have used some help. For someone who seems to know more then anyone about engines.Hmmm, me thinks you protest too much
Which moves are computer like? I dont really expect you can answer that but watching you dodge it will be amusing.
I'll think i'll stay in this thank you very much.
20 Jan 06
I still fail to see your lack of evidence for any engine moves. Somehow I dont think your "expert" engine analysis will be forth coming, its quite clear now you really do know nothing about engines in the slightest.
As it happens I play for the first team of a city in Wales. My BCF rating far out strips my highest rating here and im sure iv probably bumped into people on this site in my travels. As I said throw all the accusations my way that you like.
20 Jan 06
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Grandmouster its only a shame forumwars isnt alive and well if it was then it just might have been possible to give an honest opinion about your expertise on engines. As it is, why dont you either back up your statement I will bet money this is fritz." or say sorry to prosoccer for your slanderous outburst. You can forgo apologies to me, my thanks will be in the fact that im happy to have corrected the error of your thinking.
No hard feelings hey.
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by whitedeerwithnohornsStill trying to understand your point. You seem to be patting your self on the back, for a pointless line of dribble. Still havent seen any "proof" except for your patzer logic. Even after you profess to "know soo much" and i obviously dont know squat, I realize im wasting my time with a troll.
Grandmouster its only a shame forumwars isnt alive and well if it was then it just might have been possible to give an honest opinion about your expertise on engines. As it why dont you either back up your statement [b]I will bet money this is fritz." or say sorry to prosoccer for your slanderous outburst. You can forgo apologies to me, m ...[text shortened]... n the fact that im happy to have corrected the error of your thinking.
No hard feelings hey.[/b]
You rating is meanigless. I beat titled players online, and in blitz tourneys all the time. My online rating has been expert many times.
If you want to get in a p*ssing contest, so be it. Come with some more meaningfull diatribe next time
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterIm just calling in your bet. Prove its Fritz and I will give you $100 dollars just for that.
Still trying to understand your point. You seem to be patting your self on the back, for a pointless line of dribble. Still havent seen any "proof" except for your patzer logic. Even after you profess to "know soo much" and i obviously dont know squat, I realize im wasting my time with a troll.
You rating is meanigless. I beat titled players online, a ...[text shortened]... nt to get in a p*ssing contest, so be it. Come with some more meaningfull diatribe next time
Dont let the fact that it doesnt resemble Fritz's style of play in the slightest and that he blunders a fair few times stop you.
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterThere are 14 moves in that game that are out of the opening mainlines... almost all of them are far from being the best move for the position... how is that an engine game?!
Still trying to understand your point. You seem to be patting your self on the back, for a pointless line of dribble. Still havent seen any "proof" except for your patzer logic. Even after you profess to "know soo much" and i obviously dont know squat, I realize im wasting my time with a troll.
You rating is meanigless. I beat titled players online, a ...[text shortened]... nt to get in a p*ssing contest, so be it. Come with some more meaningfull diatribe next time
I thought you must have known something about engines form your posts in other threads, but it's quite clear you don't.
20 Jan 06
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Originally posted by welsharnieumm...engines dont always play book moves. in fact they try to get you out of book moves from move 1!
There are 14 moves in that game that are out of the opening mainlines... almost all of them are far from being the best move for the position... how is that an engine game?!
I thought you must have known something about engines form your posts in other threads, but it's quite clear you don't.
Im not going to argue with these "i know it alls" any more.
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterUmm...engines will NEVER play 14 bad moves in a game. They
umm...engines dont always play book moves. in fact they try to get you out of book moves from move 1!
Im not going to argue with these "i know it alls" any more.
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
all can find the bad continuations and maybe not play the absolute
best but you can bet your boopie they won't play 14 bad ones.
I think you better back off on your accusations, you are starting to
sound like Stang.