20 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterOh god, now you've gone from being slightly dodgy to totally stupid. Engines CANT try to get you out of book moves since they use opening books which ONLY contain book moves....hence they are called "opening books" Engines use opening books because they cant play openings without assistance from humans. The only main stream engine (that springs to mind right now) that plays sicilian without a book is Nimzo and guess what.....he didnt match Nimzo either.
umm...engines dont always play book moves. in fact they try to get you out of book moves from move 1!
Im not going to argue with these "i know it alls" any more.
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=2
Please show your proof that it matchs to fritz........
sighs, why can't you just admit you're wrong. To keep on saying he used Fritz when you wont back it up is retarded in the extream.
No one will think less of you for admiting you made a simple mistake.
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterI think it's you who is claiming to be the 'know's it all'. I am not claiming to be able to differentiate between top level players and engines, but I believe I can tell between people making multiple blunders and a 2500+ standard engine.
umm...engines dont always play book moves. in fact they try to get you out of book moves from move 1!
Im not going to argue with these "i know it alls" any more.
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by whitedeerwithnohornsI'm with all the people who say this was not an engine user. So it's like 4 for non user vs 1 who say its a user?
The fact that move 14 loses outright to.....
{-2.41/11}) ({Rybka 1.01 Beta 10 32-bit:}
14... Kf8 15. Bf4 Qb6 16. Ne4 Nxe4 17. Qd3 Nf6 18. Rab1 Rd8 {-2.41/12})
From move 10 till 17 whites game gets worse and worse according to Fritz9, Junior9, Hiarcs10 and Rykba10.
On move 18 white misses a clear change to win and instead plays the v ...[text shortened]... g him with a clear disadvantage instead of Qxc5 (which any engine would) with a clear advantage
Clearly Black is not using an engine, and if white where then no engine would ever play 18.f3, 18.Qxc5 is clearly better and If an engine can't find that then trash it.
Why do you think white used an engine, Grand____ I can't remeber the name.
You haven't shown any proof to support your claim that he was using an engine.
This is all you have done. Your using an engine! Prove it? No, you prove to me your not using an engine.
That just doesn't make sense at all.
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterYour point?
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
How does that relate to the game in hand which you said was Fritz and which clearly isnt.
Just give it up already, go back to counting your tiddly winks or whatever ever it is you do when not trying to pass yourself off as an engine expert.
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterThat's not pertinent to the matter at hand. Which moves do you see as being engine moves? That's all we need to know...
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
20 Jan 06
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Originally posted by GrandmousterGrandmouster just so you know, after a quick look at your games, im sure I could prove you match up much higher to Fritz than white did in this game.
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
Naturally I dont think you use Fritz, but when your match up is higher maybe you should be slayed by your own sword........
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by whitedeerwithnohornsI didn't want to bring this up but since you mentioned it, I want to see how he likes "his taste of the medicine."
Grandmouster just so you know, after a quick look at your games, im sure I prove you match up much higher to Fritz than white did in this game.
Naturally I dont think you use Fritz, but when you're match up is higher maybe you should be slayed by your own sword........
Grandmouster, prove that you aren't using an engine in your games.
You see how dumb that is?
It like assuming people are guilty to begin with and them having to prove thier innocence.
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by RahimKIf anyone bothered to read the thread, instead of mindless post, then you will see how the admins do it.
I didn't want to bring this up but since you mentioned it, I want to see how he likes "his taste of the medicine."
Grandmouster, prove that you aren't using an engine in your games.
You see how dumb that is?
It like assuming people are guilty to begin with and them having to prove thier innocence.
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterYou clearly missed the joining date on my profile, been there, done that, you're not telling me anything new and I still think you're pretty dumb.
If anyone bothered to read the thread, instead of mindless post, then you will see how the admins do it.
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterI did read the thread. The mods can tell the difference between a strong player and an engine user. This is not such a case; where are the moves that show he is an engine user? Please, that's all we want!
If anyone bothered to read the thread, instead of mindless post, then you will see how the admins do it.
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28690&page=1
20 Jan 06
O hey Welsh___. I didn't know that was you. I'll get back to our game when I get home from Univ.
Why do you keep sending that thread? What does that have to do with anything.
Why don't you prove to me that you don't use an engine.
All you did was accuse someone of using an engine and aren't proving it.
Besides I think you owe money to who ever you bet. I'm not a gambling person but, if someone wants to bet on my behalf, please do.
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by RahimKtoo stoned to read it? Put down the bong son....
O hey Welsh___. I didn't know that was you. I'll get back to our game when I get home from Univ.
Why do you keep sending that thread? What does that have to do with anything.
Why don't you prove to me that you don't use an engine.
All you did was accuse someone of using an engine and aren't proving it.
Besides I think you owe money to who ever you bet. I'm not a gambling person but, if someone wants to bet on my behalf, please do.
Match my moves against any engine and see how the co-inside.
20 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterNO, why don't you match your moves to any engine and then you get back to me.
too stoned to read it? Put down the bong son....
Match my moves against any engine and see how the co-inside.
After all, you claim that he is cheating and we are suppose to prove he is not cheating. This is really stupid logic, but besides that, we proved he is not cheating.
Now why don't you step up the plate and back up your cheating accusation.
There's like 5 of us against you. Clearly your wrong. Clearly, Clearly.