The Latvian Gambit destroys all!

Originally posted by Northern Lad
Not in the Bxf7+ lines.

yes but Bxf7+ isn't as good as Nxf7

Originally posted by tomtom232
yes but Bxf7+ isn't as good as Nxf7

Huh???

Basically speaking (if that's possible in the Traxler) after 5.Nxf7?! black gets good compensation for the rook. At worst the result is unclear, apparently.
After 5.Bxf7+!? white definately has a slight advantage with lines like 5...Kf8, 6.Bb3...d5, 7.0-0 for instance.

5.Bxf7+!?...Ke7 is supposed to be best for black, but white has 6.Bc4...Rf8, 7.Nc3..h6, 8.Nf3...d6, 9.0-0 with a slight advantage I think:
black to play

Originally posted by Korch
It`s not reason to spam - so if you cant post games in Latvian gambit (or posting something useful) then please be so kind and stop posting in this thread.

You go on about spam my son, but calling someone an idiot is flaming.

So whats worse the spammer of flammer?

Originally posted by Kaworukun
You go on about spam my son, but calling someone an idiot is flaming.

So whats worse the spammer of flammer?

And your texts in this thread are obvious trolling. So dont be so hypocrite and stop post in this thread if you have nothing useful to say.

Originally posted by Squelchbelch
On chesslive.de after 8...Nc6 this scores 7-0 in white's favour.

In RHP my statistic with this move is 1-1.

Originally posted by Northern Lad
I think that Korch is a very good player, but I have to disagree with him regarding the Latvian Gambit. In the above-mentioned game I used current theory plus the website http://www.jeremysilman.com/chess_opng_anlys/040410_latvian_gambit.html which I found quite useful. I have to say it was relatively easy to obtain a big opening advantage, after which the Latvian and Traxler Counter Gambits to be sound, but wishful thinking only gets you so far.

http://www.jeremysilman.com/chess_opng_anlys/040410_latvian_gambit.html

I know this article but 5...d6 line is analysed not too deep. Also I know other possible subways does even not mentioned there.

Originally posted by tomtom232
yes but Bxf7+ isn't as good as Nxf7

Really? That's news to me!

Originally posted by Northern Lad
I think that Korch is a very good player, but I have to disagree with him regarding the Latvian Gambit. In the above-mentioned game I used current theory plus the website http://www.jeremysilman.com/chess_opng_anlys/040410_latvian_gambit.html which I found quite useful. I have to say it was relatively easy to obtain a big opening advantage, after which ...[text shortened]... the Latvian and Traxler Counter Gambits to be sound, but wishful thinking only gets you so far.

The Traxler is very hard to refute OTB however. Even if it is 'theoretcally ' not sound.

Originally posted by najdorfslayer
The Traxler is very hard to refute OTB however. Even if it is 'theoretcally ' not sound.

The same I would say about the Latvian gambit.

Originally posted by Korch
The same I would say about the Latvian gambit.

I agree in my early days if I knew someone played the Latvian I played 2.Bc4, even though it may not be theoretically sound OTB it is hard to refute especially as it is Black who usually know loads more about it and is more familiar with the positions.

Originally posted by najdorfslayer
I agree in my early days if I knew someone played the Latvian I played 2.Bc4, even though it may not be theoretically sound OTB it is hard to refute especially as it is Black who usually know loads more about it and is more familiar with the positions.

Actually 2...f5 is possible also against 1.e4 e5 2.Bc4

Originally posted by najdorfslayer
The Traxler is very hard to refute OTB however. Even if it is 'theoretcally ' not sound.

Strong players, when they meet the Traxler OTB, normally don't bother to try to refute it but simply play 5.Bxf7+ and usually 6.Bd5, after which it's hard for black to show tangible compensation for the pawn.

Originally posted by Northern Lad
Strong players, when they meet the Traxler OTB, normally don't bother to try to refute it but simply play 5.Bxf7+ and usually 6.Bd5, after which it's hard for black to show tangible compensation for the pawn.

Maybe but I don't play 'really strong' players OTB (I'm generally playing players on average about BCF 160 ish) so in that case the Traxler is okay! 😉

Originally posted by Northern Lad
Strong players, when they meet the Traxler OTB, normally don't bother to try to refute it but simply play 5.Bxf7+ and usually 6.Bd5, after which it's hard for black to show tangible compensation for the pawn.

Shows that you dont know what your talking about. The fact that the king is well placed on e7, and the fact black gains an open file. Some people even consider black to be better.

Originally posted by Kaworukun
Shows that you dont know what your talking about. The fact that the king is well placed on e7, and the fact black gains an open file. Some people even consider black to be better.

I think Northern Lad DOES know what he is on about!!

I think NL is right, objectively White maybe better but practically Black has good winning chances.