14 Jan 08
Originally posted by Sam The ShamFIDE says in their official rules:
It would certainly be declared a draw in an OTB tournament, even if time ran out for either player.
"9.6 : The game is drawn when a position is reached from which a checkmate cannot occur by any possible series of legal moves, even with the most unskilled play. This immediately ends the game, provided that the move producing this position was legal."
14 Jan 08
Originally posted by FabianFnasIn a tournament you may also have the following applying:
FIDE says in their official rules:
"9.6 : The game is drawn when a position is reached from which a checkmate cannot occur by any possible series of legal moves, even with the most unskilled play. This immediately ends the game, provided that the move producing this position was legal."
(Article 10: Quickplay Finish)
10.2.a If the arbiter agrees the opponent is making no effort to win the game by normal means, or that it is not possible to win by normal means, then he shall declare the game drawn.
14 Jan 08
Originally posted by mtthwFIDE again:
In a tournament you may also have the following applying:
(Article 10: Quickplay Finish)
10.2.a If the arbiter agrees the opponent is making no effort to win the game by normal means, or that it is not possible to win by normal means, then he shall declare the game drawn.
"10.2 If the player, having the move, has less than two minutes left on his clock, he may claim a draw before his flag falls. He shall stop the clocks and summon the arbiter."
then comes 10.2.a
This is not applicable in CC games, but, as you say, in OTB games, where in short it says that: Don't play meaningless moves in order to win on time, or your opponent can force a draw out of it.
14 Jan 08
Originally posted by FabianFnasAgreed! but how would it be possible to enforce that rule here. In the game in question a win is still in theory possible and it would require a human arbiter to determine otherwise.
FIDE again:
"10.2 If the player, having the move, has less than two minutes left on his clock, he may claim a draw before his flag falls. He shall stop the clocks and summon the arbiter."
then comes 10.2.a
This is not applicable in CC games, but, as you say, in OTB games, where in short it says that: Don't play meaningless moves in order to win on time, or your opponent can force a draw out of it.
15 Jan 08
Originally posted by EmiliosYes. In fact, I judge the merit of a man simply based on his chess rating. In fact, if he's not 1800 or above, well, he's no man at all.
...What is it with you people above 1800 and you think less of us?You really think you are smarter just because you care more about chess than we do?
15 Jan 08
Yes, the game was a draw for sometime but, you have to understand that not all 1500 rated players know how to play K+P endgames. Some K+P endings are tricky & because of the rating difference, he may have wanted to play on to see if you actually can draw it. Having a draw and, actually knowing how to draw it is two different things. I was playing a game once where a lower rated player had me beat with a K+R vs. K position. Anyway, just for kicks I was going to let her checkmate me. It turned out that she could not figure it out!!!
Now, as a good sportsman, I resigned the game but, if I wanted to be a dork about winning or losing, I could have drawn that game!! So, maybe your opponent wanted to see if you really know what your doing or not?
15 Jan 08
Originally posted by TyrannosauruschexI accept the fact that certain people have more respect for high rated players but having no respect at all for low rated players is unacceptable!
I dont know whether I take it that far, but I certainly find myself more repectful towards players that I think are better then me (or even capable of beating me)
25 Jan 08
Originally posted by mmafighterThis is absolutely correct. I won't name names, but suffice to say there are high rated players who do not know the nuances of K+P (i.e. opposition, outflanking and triangulation). I myself am working on Petrovich's study plan and the R vrs P endgames we are studying are sufficiently complex, that I get some right the first time, but I do many of the puzzles twice.
Yes, the game was a draw for sometime but, you have to understand that not all 1500 rated players know how to play K+P endgames.