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Originally posted by Bowmann
How so?
For example, I am a hedonistic utilitarian. This means that I should choose to do things which increase pleasure and decrease pain in the world. If, however, both results will occur somewhere irrespective of my choice in this universe, then no choice is more moral than any other.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
For example, I am a hedonistic utilitarian.
That just means you're irresponsible. And hence untrustworthy.

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Originally posted by Bowmann
That just means you're irresponsible. And hence untrustworthy.
You don't start a sentence with "and", language Nazi.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
You don't start a sentence with "and", language Nazi.
Are you calling him the language nazi?

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Originally posted by thespacemonkey
Are you calling him the language nazi?
Yes.

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Surely your oppressive, albeit correct, but oppressive language rules makes you more of a nazi, making him the anarchist.

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Originally posted by thespacemonkey
Surely your oppressive, albeit correct, but oppressive language rules makes you more of a nazi, making him the anarchist.
I'm giving him his own medicine.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I'm giving him his own medicine.
In one universe he's making him angry.
In another he'smaking him laugh.
By the very same remark.

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
In one universe he's making him angry.
In another he'smaking him laugh.
By the very same remark.
I guess the trick then is to make sure you are always in the universe where you are happy. I wonder if you can decide on that level or not?

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Originally posted by Gastel
I guess the trick then is to make sure you are always in the universe where you are happy. I wonder if you can decide on that level or not?
The nice thing about the concept of parallel universes is that you never have to decide to be in the right (the happy) universe.
You split in two in the same moment the universe does.

So which universe are you in? Are you happy? Then you are in the happy universe. If not, then you should know that the other you are in the happy universe. Should be of some comfort, doesn't it?

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I still have problems seeing any scientific basis for a paralell universe modified by our choices. Surely its more like a library of Babel, where all potential universes are possible, ie. there is a universe identical to ours untill the point where I decide to make this post. Whereas you, wether it be intentional or not, present it as us creating the other universes, which surely cannot be correct. I'm also at a loss as to how to reconsile this idea with the concept of determinism. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see determinism fall on its arse, but as things are at the moment, I don't see a way around it.

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Originally posted by uzless
That was a Star Trek episode
what the hell do i care where i found it?

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Originally posted by sofar55
what the hell do i care where i found it?
I think that it was pointed out as being a Star Trek episode it is slightly less credible, than say, a proper scientific theory.

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Originally posted by thespacemonkey
I think that it was pointed out as being a Star Trek episode it is slightly less credible, than say, a proper scientific theory.
does that really matter?
it still makes sense.
or is it that you don't think anything represented in startrek is credible

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Originally posted by sofar55
does that really matter?
it still makes sense.
or is it that you don't think anything represented in startrek is credible
Not at all, most things in Star Trek has at least some scientific background, all I'm saying is that there is little evidence for this kind of universe, and if anyone could point me towards some actual scientific papers on it, I would find the whole thing alot more creadible.

I don't feel comfortable basing something entirely on what was seen in a Star Trek episode.

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