@Ponderable saidSo is the fact that governments treat that unfalsifiable cause, as a cash cow, that they can tax and regulate due to the fear it could be true from car emissions to cow farts.
In fact the parallel between temperature rise and burning of carbonecous compunds is striking, as is the expalantion of how C=2 acts. So yes. Humans burn rders of magnitude more than can be bound, that has to have consequences.
Oh yes and there are some natural effects also acting on climate.
@Great-Big-Stees saidMost of the other life forms will get on much better without us, domestic cows and pigs excepted.
Fear not for our planet. Mother Nature will see to it that it, the planet, will rebound after man has “disappeared”. 👍
@KellyJay saidThat has no point in the "Science" Forum, put it to "Debates".
So is the fact that governments treat that unfalsifiable cause, as a cash cow, that they can tax and regulate due to the fear it could be true from car emissions to cow farts.
@Ponderable saidYou think that it is falsifiable?
That has no point in the "Science" Forum, put it to "Debates".
@KellyJay
In other words if you live long enough to see real effects of climate change like Santa Monica disappearing under a sea of water and that also happening around the world, no matter WHAT happens, humans are WAY to insignificant on the planetary stage to EVER affect our climate.
Can you admit that is your stance?
@sonhouse saidAnd if that never happens?
@KellyJay
In other words if you live long enough to see real effects of climate change like Santa Monica disappearing under a sea of water and that also happening around the world, no matter WHAT happens, humans are WAY to insignificant on the planetary stage to EVER affect our climate.
Can you admit that is your stance?
@KellyJay
Sure, all you have to do is keep your mind closed, ignore things like a brush fire in Canada consuming an area bigger than my state of Pennsylvania where we had to breathe the smoke for weeks right here in the US.
Yep, just weather.
Alaska ice now melting much faster than ever before, now 50,000 gallons per SECOND. You ever hear THAT happening before?
Oh, I forgot, just weather.
@KellyJay saidSo what exactly would you accept as proof?
I don't deny what I don't think has been proven.
@Ponderable saidA means to tell me the global temperature and track it over time for a substantial period of time.
So what exactly would you accept as proof?
@KellyJay said"substantial" being? You probably don't accept the temperature tracking of the last few tousand years?
A means to tell me the global temperature and track it over time for a substantial period of time.
@Ponderable
No, his response to that will undoubtedly be to just put down the science of how those past temperatures are measured, so he can rationalize it all away.
@Ponderable saidWe have been tracking temperatures for the earth for a few thousand years? We only have recorded human history for how long?
"substantial" being? You probably don't accept the temperature tracking of the last few tousand years?