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@Eladar
How long has your head been so firmly up your own ASS? Now BABIES are getting sick from Delta but of COURSE you will come up with some ultrarightwingnutjob site refuting that.

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@eladar said
Age is the difference. Young children were made cripples. The death rate for children and covid is very very small.

COVID kills the elderly which is no big deal when compared to killing young children.
Roosevelt was 39.

Everybody got vaccinated for polio, regardless of age or risk level. This was even after a production mistake left 200 people paralyzed.

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@sonhouse said
@Eladar
How long has your head been so firmly up your own ASS? Now BABIES are getting sick from Delta but of COURSE you will come up with some ultrarightwingnutjob site refuting that.
People of all ages have been getting sick from the beginning of covid spread.

Your fear of this clouds your judgment, at least I hope you are not usually this stupid.

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@Eladar
You are PROVING how stupid you are. Stuck back in Trump world, the world of LIES and misinformation where your god trump downplayed C19 JUST LIKE YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.

That attitude KILLS people. BABIES ARE GETTING VERY SICK UNDER THE DELTA VARIETY.

As young as 3 MONTHS old.

Try joining the human race instead of continuing to be a Trump Cultist.

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@sonhouse said
@Eladar
You are PROVING how stupid you are. Stuck back in Trump world, the world of LIES and misinformation where your god trump downplayed C19 JUST LIKE YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.

That attitude KILLS people. BABIES ARE GETTING VERY SICK UNDER THE DELTA VARIETY.

As young as 3 MONTHS old.

Try joining the human race instead of continuing to be a Trump Cultist.
Babies got sick with COVID from the get go.

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@wildgrass said
Roosevelt was 39.

Everybody got vaccinated for polio, regardless of age or risk level. This was even after a production mistake left 200 people paralyzed.
80 percent of COVID deaths are people 65 or older. Get over it.

Concerning polio...

Key factsPolio (poliomyelitis) mainly affects children under 5 years of age.1 in 200 infections leads to irreversible paralysis. Among those paralysed, 5% to 10% die when their breathing muscles become immobilized.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/poliomyelitis

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@sonhouse I know one that had a leg amputated and damn near died for vaccine issues. It is fairly rare I do believe, but long term effects are a big unknown.

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Long term effects are beginning to make themselves known now. Brain damage, lung damage, kidney damage, all long term problems from COVID not the vaccine.

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@metal-brain said
But the herd immunity hypothesis has been destroyed. The gene vaccines are nothing more than treatments and do not prevent infection and transmission. That undercuts the whole vaccine mandate. No logical person can endorse a vaccine mandate or passport based on the data.

The corporate news media is not reporting that the herd immunity hypothesis has been destroyed. The ...[text shortened]... e mandates or passports are useless and they do not want to admit it. This should be a huge scandal!
Not if it means that as 64yr old with mild COPD high blood pressure and controlled type two diabetes I’ve survived three waves of the virus whilst carrying on with my life including work.
The vaccines work in the sense that they definitely without a shadow of a doubt give a significant level of protection against life changing illness and death from covid 19.
The best way to stop the spread in its tracks is reasonable social distancing and masks.

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Not if it means that as 64yr old with mild COPD high blood pressure and controlled type two diabetes I’ve survived three waves of the virus whilst carrying on with my life including work.
The vaccines work in the sense that they definitely without a shadow of a doubt give a significant level of protection against life changing illness and death from covid 19.
The best way to stop the spread in its tracks is reasonable social distancing and masks.
"The best way to stop the spread in its tracks is reasonable social distancing and masks."

But people who wear masks do not socially distance as much. That is why Jerome Adams said masks do more harm than good. He also said people who wear masks touch their faces masks too much which increases the spread of the SARS2 virus.

Nobody can show me a study that contradicts the study saying that. That is why I believe they were telling the truth the first time. Then they found out mandating wearing face masks would scare people into submitting to the gene vaccines. So they lied by saying they lied the first time.

Face masks increasing the spread was a bonus. That increased fear too. Just what they needed to scare people to gene vaccines. It was a twofer.

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@kevcvs57 said
Not if it means that as 64yr old with mild COPD high blood pressure and controlled type two diabetes I’ve survived three waves of the virus whilst carrying on with my life including work.
The vaccines work in the sense that they definitely without a shadow of a doubt give a significant level of protection against life changing illness and death from covid 19.
The best way to stop the spread in its tracks is reasonable social distancing and masks.
If you have type 2 diabetes, try cutting out all grains, sugar and starch. Next thing you can do is a bit of weight lifting 3 or 4 days per week to develop muscle mass for burning glucose. Throw in a good daily 45 minute aerobic exercise and in 6 months you should no longer be a diabetic.

Type 2 diabetics are that way due to poor life choices.

Of course the lazy way is the easy way...just get a shot.

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@sonhouse said
@Eladar
You are PROVING how stupid you are. Stuck back in Trump world, the world of LIES and misinformation where your god trump downplayed C19 JUST LIKE YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.

That attitude KILLS people. BABIES ARE GETTING VERY SICK UNDER THE DELTA VARIETY.

As young as 3 MONTHS old.

Try joining the human race instead of continuing to be a Trump Cultist.
The the UK government in it's own documentation makes it clear that the PCR test can not detect a specifically infectious pathogen

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/926410/Understanding_Cycle_Threshold__Ct__in_SARS-CoV-2_RT-PCR_.pdf

Page 6 first paragraph after the red diagram.

Given that the PCR test is not capable of detecting specifically infectious material, how are you determining that these babies have a variant, delta or otherwise?

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@sonhouse I think we can agree steps should be taken before contracting Covid. If that injection puts a sufficient amount of the dose in the bloodstream you are toast. I would like to see the experts work on that one thing and I would be in immediately for mine. I would be cautious about too many boosters because long term effects of the immune system is not known. I would continue an Ivermectin plan as well. If you don't let the virus replicate you won't become contagious to others. I have a neighbor who is doing terrible right now and it is a breakthrough case. I believe he will survive and very well may have a lesser case because of being vaccinated, but he is contagious as hell. How many breakthrough cases are running around unknowingly spreading the virus and providing an environment of stress for the virus causing mutation to survive the shot? The unvaccinated are getting the blame for this but I have no doubt you understand this situation.

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@Eladar
So is that statement supposed to mean you think the delta variant is no big deal, nothing to see here, go back home folks?

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@joe-beyser
All well and good but we need to eradicate that damn virus RIGHT NOW, not 10 years from now which is what a normal science project takes to get from lab to stores.
We already have several versions of the vaccine and the ALL work some better than others but the all keep you from dying or getting so sick you need to be hospitalized or put on a ventilator.

The BIG problem is stopping Covid before it can generate even more dangerous variants.
It is the unvaccinated around the planet giving the bio experiments the virus is doing right now, trying to find the best way to attack human cells.

The delta is only one of many more to come down the pike and it is CERTAIN the newer variants will be stronger at infecting folks than even the delta.

That is why we need to deal with all of this IMMEDIATELY if not sooner.

A LARGE part of the blame goes directly to that criminal EX POTUS Trump, downplaying the virus even though he was told right to his face in JANUARY 2020 the virus was dangerous but what does he do but go, yep it will be all over by Memorial day or some such. Ingest bleach, that kills the virus and all the rest of the anti science BULLSHTYE this criminal pukes out.

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