19 Oct 18
@dj2becker saidYes. The issue is a complicated one, not black and white.
Do you believe aborting the child would be morally justified at any point in the pregnancy?
Again, Is it morally justifiable to force a girl, who has been raped, to give birth to the child of her rapist?
Yes or no?
@ghost-of-a-duke saidSo you believe killing the fetus seconds before birth is morally justified? I find it impossible to agree.
Yes. The issue is a complicated one, not black and white.
Again, Is it morally justifiable to force a girl, who has been raped, to give birth to the child of her rapist?
Yes or no?
I think the life of a child outweighs the discomfort that the mother has to go through.
19 Oct 18
@ghost-of-a-duke saidCan you find God banishing war, or law enforcement from ending life?
If it is not okay to end a life before it is born, how can it be okay to end the life of a fully grown man on a battlefield?
(Bearing in mind your statement: 'Since God is the One giving someone life who are we to take it?' )
@dj2becker saidNo, I don't.
So you believe killing the fetus seconds before birth is morally justified?
Please google legal abortion and come back to us.
And to be clear I am not a flag waver for abortion, but do recognize the issue is a complicated one.
@kellyjay saidKelly, you asked who are we (as humans) to end the life God has given.
Can you find God banishing war, or law enforcement from ending life?
You can't have your cake and eat it.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI asked if you believed aborting the child would be morally justified at any point in the pregnancy. You said yes. Do you wish to recant?
No, I don't.
Please google legal abortion and come back to us.
And to be clear I am not a flag waver for abortion, but do recognize the issue is a complicated one.
@dj2becker saidOf course the abortion would need to be in compliance with the law and the timeframe specified by that law.
I asked if you believed aborting the child would be morally justified at any point in the pregnancy? You said yes. Do you wish to recant?
Who in their right mind is talking about 'killing the fetus seconds before birth?!'
19 Oct 18
@ghost-of-a-duke saidMan's law?
Of course the abortion would need to be in compliance with the law and the timeframe specified by that law.
Who in their right mind is talking about 'killing the fetus seconds before birth?!'
Obviously not God's law.
Atheists cannot debate the abortion issue with theists because of the absence of God in the debate.
@chaney3 saidThe Bible being what it is, the reality is that the Bible is open to interpretation as to when life begins. That many use terms such as "God's law" to describe their own interpretation is hubris. It speaks to their own sense of self-importance.
Man's law?
Obviously not God's law.
Atheists cannot debate the abortion issue with theists because of the absence of God in the debate.
@chaney3 saidAnd theists like yourself, who only see in black and white, cannot debate the abortion issue due to its complexity.
Atheists cannot debate the abortion issue with theists because of the absence of God in the debate.
19 Oct 18
@ghost-of-a-duke saidSo if ‘the law’ were to allow a pregnancy to be terminated seconds before birth you would be cool with it? Or is there something that should take precedence over a man made law in this case?
Of course the abortion would need to be in compliance with the law and the timeframe specified by that law.
Who in their right mind is talking about 'killing the fetus seconds before birth?!'
@dj2becker saidThe law 'wouldn't' allow such a thing, due to being constructed by rational and educated human beings. (As opposed to some of the barbaric laws in the OT).
So if ‘the law’ were to allow a pregnancy to be terminated seconds before birth you would be cool with it? Or is there something that should take precedence over a man made law in this case?
@chaney3 saidGood thing that we have a document stating that government should not be about what God you worship, as much as the right, who claim to be all about that same document, refuses to acknowledge that.
Man's law?
Obviously not God's law.
Atheists cannot debate the abortion issue with theists because of the absence of God in the debate.
@thinkofone saidWell, if I'm not mistaken, after the commandment was issued not to kill, or murder.......much killing and murdering took place in the bible.
The Bible being what it is, the reality is that the Bible is open to interpretation as to when life begins. That many use terms such as "God's law" to describe their own interpretation is hubris. It speaks to their own sense of self-importance.