Abortion...what should be the line?

Originally posted by LemonJello
KJ, if you could read and assimilate information more carefully, you'd know that the germ example I raised was in demonstration of my claim that life itself is not sufficient for moral consideration. Human life isn't sufficient either because species membership is irrelevant as well. I'm well aware of the fact that arguments can be made for the i ...[text shortened]... not ignoring them. They just don't demonstrate what you apparently think they demonstrate.

You're wasting your time with KellyJay; you won't get any rational arguments just post after post calling you a baby killer. Not that he would "berate or belittle" anybody. Hypocritical, self-righteous swine that he is.

Originally posted by no1marauder
You're wasting your time with KellyJay; you won't get any rational arguments just post after post calling you a baby killer. Not that he would "berate or belittle" anybody. Hypocritical, self-righteous swine that he is.

you are lucky you were not a victim of abortion. it should bother you, that you are lucky to be alive and were not killed before you could live yet you think it is okay to have an abortion?

Originally posted by LemonJello
[b]The person from conception isn't a view it is a fact

Oh, really? What's your argument for that? Do you have anything to offer this discussion beyond speciesist propaganda and religious hogwash?[/b]

this is the spirituality forum, isnt it?

Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
you are lucky you were not a victim of abortion. it should bother you, that you are lucky to be alive and were not killed before you could live yet you think it is okay to have an abortion?

Sure, go ahead and have one. Too bad your mom didn't.

Getting killed before you live doesn't make any sense, Bucky.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Sure, go ahead and have one. Too bad your mom didn't.

think the person you care about most, then think what would happen if they were killed? doesnt that bother you at all?

Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
think the person you care about most, then think what would happen if they were killed? doesnt that bother you at all?

Doesn't it bother you that you're completely clueless?

Originally posted by no1marauder
Doesn't it bother you that you're completely clueless?

you cannot deny that imagining the person you care for most never existed frightens you

Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
you cannot deny that imagining the person you care for most never existed frightens you

Why would it?

Originally posted by no1marauder
Why would it?

cuz you care for them; otherwise you are heartless

Originally posted by LemonJello
KJ, if you could read and assimilate information more carefully, you'd know that the germ example I raised was in demonstration of my claim that life itself is not sufficient for moral consideration. Human life isn't sufficient either because species membership is irrelevant as well. I'm well aware of the fact that arguments can be made for the i ...[text shortened]... not ignoring them. They just don't demonstrate what you apparently think they demonstrate.

I understand you don't think that human life in and of itself isn't very important. I cannot make you value something you do not, which in this case is human life at it's earliest stages. You either care about that life or you do not, that is the bottom line. To wrap up justification beyond that is meaningless, it does not matter if you call that life a person, say it does not feel pain and so on. Just be honest, it isn't that important to you, and the dance on why is simply ended, you don't care and nothing is going to be said to you will change your mind, that life can be ended and the remains flushed after the abortion, end of story.
Kelly

Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
cuz you care for them; otherwise you are heartless

If they never existed, how could I care for them?

Originally posted by KellyJay
I understand you don't think that human life in and of itself isn't very important. I cannot make you value something you do not, which in this case is human life at it's earliest stages. You either care about that life or you do not, that is the bottom line. To wrap up justification beyond that is meaningless, it does not matter if you call that life a per nd, that life can be ended and the remains flushed after the abortion, end of story.
Kelly

BABY KILLER!!!!!

You value ALL life, KellyJay? You don't use mouthwash or disinfectant?

Originally posted by no1marauder
If they never existed, how could I care for them?

but arent you glad that they do exist?

Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
but arent you glad that they do exist?

How old are you? You "reason" like an 8 year old.

Originally posted by no1marauder
You're wasting your time with KellyJay; you won't get any rational arguments just post after post calling you a baby killer. Not that he would "berate or belittle" anybody. Hypocritical, self-righteous swine that he is.

You are a liar, I have not called anyone here a baby killer, I even corrected you when you said that ealier. As for the rest of your post, it is just your MO, you cannot deal much with people that disagree with your before you start with the insults, I guess it is in hopes to get them to lower themselves to act like you do.
Kelly