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Abortion...what should be the line?

Abortion...what should be the line?

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Originally posted by KnightWulfe
Based on your responses, you seem to be a pro-life individual. I was curious if you had a daughter. I have a hypothetical for you, if so...
I have three daughters, I'm pro-life, one of my daughters died from a heart defect a year after her birth. Ask me your question.
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Originally posted by scottishinnz
I have a hypothetical question for the anti-abortionists here.

Suppose a cognescent alien life form came to earth, which could only survive by parasitising humans. Would you advocate the removal of these life forms, even though it would cause their death, or would you suggest that people should "just live with it"?
I think it makes a difference whether the aliens voluntarily chose to parasitize humans or whether they were involuntarily made to become parasites. Only in the latter case would the situation be analogous to a woman getting involuntarily pregnant (and even then there are some remaining disanalogies), which is where I suspect you are going with this.

My view would be that, if an already intelligent life form was involuntarily attached to me so that he couldn't live without me for nine months, I would not be under any moral *obligation* to keep him attached, but that it would nonetheless be *supererogatory good* for me to allow him to remain attached.

And, provided he wasn't too too uncomfortable to carry around, I think I would put up with him. I'm nice.

However, if he hadn't yet developed sentience at the time he began to parasitize me, I would probably get rid of him. Unless I thought he might turn into a very nice alien that I wanted to bring up and show off at dinner parties.

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Originally posted by KnightWulfe
Based on your responses, you seem to be a pro-life individual. I was curious if you had a daughter. I have a hypothetical for you, if so...
I never give personal information on the internet, but go ahead and ask your hypothetical.

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abortion should be regulated strictly to wher only a few special cases are permitted
such cases: rape, mother's health endangered

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
abortion should be regulated strictly to wher only a few special cases are permitted
such cases: rape, mother's health endangered
Which is essentially the case anyway, so what's the problem?

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Originally posted by amannion
Which is essentially the case anyway, so what's the problem?
No it isn't "Which is essentially the case anyway..." any reason is good enough.
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Originally posted by amannion
Which is essentially the case anyway, so what's the problem?
To which country are you referring ?

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
To which country are you referring ?
Australia.

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Originally posted by KnightWulfe
This is likely one of the hottest topics that I have ever discussed with others. It covers sex, religion, and even the affects of life itself.

I am curious of those who are both pro-choice and pro-life.... Is there a line where abortion is ok or not ok?
If there are reasonable grounds to believe that the mother would lose her life as a direct result of continuing with the pregnancy.

You're going to lose one of them, so at least opt for the one who's already established in life (and various other reasons).

Of course, no one is obliged to accept medical treatment, so if the mother chooses to continue with the pregnancy that would be the only time I'd be "pro-choice".

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for those who believe that a foetus is equivalent to a baby(post birth), should a mother who accidentally falls and causes an abortion be treated in exactly the same way as a mother who accidentally kills a child?

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Originally posted by twhitehead
for those who believe that a foetus is equivalent to a baby(post birth), should a mother who accidentally falls and causes an abortion be treated in exactly the same way as a mother who accidentally kills a child?
Uhm... both were accidents -- I don't see the catch. If by this you mean that all miscarriages should be subject to intense scrutiny, your question is one of judicial capacity and efficiency rather than morality; i.e. a red herring.

In what sense do you mean "equivalent"?

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Originally posted by KnightWulfe
This is likely one of the hottest topics that I have ever discussed with others. It covers sex, religion, and even the affects of life itself.

I am curious of those who are both pro-choice and pro-life.... Is there a line where abortion is ok or not ok?
If you spill your seed on the ground, you committed many thousands of deliberate abortions (see Onanism). If you fail to spill your seed, it dies in your body (more abortions). I'll let you work out the rest.

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Originally posted by KnightWulfe
I am curious of those who are both pro-choice and pro-life.... Is there a line where abortion is ok or not ok?
Yes, in some cases i'd be for it .. if I could make it retroactive.

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Originally posted by twhitehead
for those who believe that a foetus is equivalent to a baby(post birth), should a mother who accidentally falls and causes an abortion be treated in exactly the same way as a mother who accidentally kills a child?
And, while we're at it, should a pregnant woman who drinks liquor be treated the same as a mother who gives liquor to her 1-year old?

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Originally posted by twhitehead
for those who believe that a foetus is equivalent to a baby(post birth), should a mother who accidentally falls and causes an abortion be treated in exactly the same way as a mother who accidentally kills a child?
Do you believe a five year old boy is equivalent to a 28 year old man?
Do you believe a three year old girl is equivalent to an 18 year old woman?
What type of asinine question of equivalence are you proposing?
Kelly

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