Abortion to avoid hell

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“Is this an acceptable way to speak to people in this forum?”

@divegeester said
Yes I know what abortion is and I know what your stance on it is and I know WHY you hold that opinion.

What the OP is asking is how someone such as yourself reconciles all the “truths” (according to your beliefs) I highlighted. Your response here is more or less an “it is what it is” approach.

Given that God is just and knows everyone before they were conceived ri ...[text shortened]... Jesus burning the majority of the non-aborted in hell?

Can you see that something must be wrong?

Hell was created for the devil and his angels, and people are also condemned due
to our evil. With or without abortion, that will not change; God created life and
told us to be fruitful and multiply; killing our young in the womb is not a solution;
only Jesus Christ is. If you are proposing it is better not to live than be thrown into
hell, how is that better? You are comparing not ever being to being, which means
having both heaven and hell is not worth a single person going to hell. God
created life; life is to be lived in love, not hate, righteousness, and goodness, not
evil and self-gratification, turning others into objects to be consumed.

The world is filled with people who could at any moment turn to God as He calls
them; each time that is done, even the angels rejoice over a single one. Being made
in God's image is huge; knowing that Jesus prayed that God would love us as He
does Him is one of the most incredible things when you ponder that. What God
has in store for us has not yet entered into man's heart, so how can we compare
non-existence to it?

@kellyjay said
What God
has in store for us has not yet entered into man's heart, so how can we compare
non-existence to it?

I don’t believe in “non existence” KellyJay, you do.

Repeatedly telling me what you believe is NOT an answer to the premise in the OP. It is simply what you believe.

The OP sets out a fairly detailed debunking of the combination of the two ideologies, of anti-abortion and eternal suffering, and shows you why they cannot coexist.

A good way to test our Christian beliefs is to conjoin them and see if they still hold. This is what my recent thread about computer apps and programs was about, but you missed the point there also.

@divegeester said
I don’t believe in “non existence” KellyJay, you do.

Repeatedly telling me what you believe is NOT an answer to the premise in the OP. It is simply what you believe.

The OP sets out a fairly detailed debunking of the combination of the two ideologies, of anti-abortion and eternal suffering, and shows you why they cannot coexist.

A good way to test our Christian ...[text shortened]... at my recent thread about computer apps and programs was about, but you missed the point there also.

We are all given a life, and we did not do that ourselves; God gave it to us. Being
for life and not having it destroyed before it could be lived out fully has nothing to
do with Hell; it is the life that is important. Being pro-life and eternal suffering is
not at odds any more than being pro-love and eternal suffering is.

We are eternal beings, and righteousness, goodness, justice, and holiness are the
ways life is to be lived and enjoyed in love. Loving others is painful, extremely
painful in this life since it isn't always reciprocated, the ones we love can go
through hardships we can do nothing about, those we love can die, and our
happiness and joy in this life can be altered by what someone we love is going
through. That doesn't mean that something good like love should be avoided
because with it also comes a side that is painful and heartbreaking.

With God's Kingdom, all that causes evil has embraced it and rejected the saving
grace offered will not negatively affect the eternal Kingdom when a new heaven
and earth are here.

@kellyjay said
We are all given a life, and we did not do that ourselves; God gave it to us. Being
for life and not having it destroyed before it could be lived out fully has nothing to
do with Hell; it is the life that is important. Being pro-life and eternal suffering is
not at odds any more than being pro-love and eternal suffering is.

We are eternal beings, and righteousness, goo ...[text shortened]...
grace offered will not negatively affect the eternal Kingdom when a new heaven
and earth are here.

Thanks for your slab of opinion.
Here is the point about your religious dogma which I’m asking you to address:

The OP sets out a fairly detailed debunking of the combination of the two ideologies, of anti-abortion and eternal suffering, and shows you why they cannot coexist.

A good way to test our Christian beliefs is to conjoin them and see if they still hold. This is what my recent thread about computer apps and programs was about, but you missed the point there also.

@divegeester said
Thanks for your slab of opinion.
Here is the point about your religious dogma which I’m asking you to address:

The OP sets out a fairly detailed debunking of the combination of the two ideologies, of anti-abortion and eternal suffering, and shows you why they cannot coexist.

A good way to test our Christian beliefs is to conjoin them and see if they still hold ...[text shortened]... y recent thread about computer apps and programs was about, but you missed the point there also.

What do you think makes them incapable with each other? Do you think killing a two day old also makes eternal damnation a non-issue, is there any particular age that is compatible with Hell, or is that to much regardless of age or sin?

@kellyjay said
What do you think makes them incapable with each other?

Try reading my OP with your mind open and engaged.

@divegeester said
Try reading my OP with your mind open and engaged.

I don’t possess mind reading abilities if you can not explain it, it is not much of a point.

@kellyjay said
I don’t possess mind reading abilities if you can not explain it, it is not much of a point.

You think you need to be a mind reader to understand my OP ?

I guess that explains a lot about both your intellect and your honesty. Try asking KingDavid to explain it to you, he understood it.

edit: and so do you!

@divegeester said
You think you need to be a mind reader to understand my OP ?

I guess that explains a lot about both your intellect and your honesty. Try asking KingDavid to explain it to you, he understood it.

edit: and so do you!

Do you think killing the unborn is the way to avoid hell for them? Slaughtering the
innocent to protect them before they can make a choice?

@kellyjay said
Do you think killing the unborn is the way to avoid hell for them?

According to your beliefs, does a terminated foetus go to "heaven" or "hell"?

@fmf said
According to your beliefs, does a terminated foetus go to "heaven" or "hell"?

I don't know. They have no choice, no ability to make one, the purest of innocent
even after birth, that is true. I believe God will do what is right.

@kellyjay said
I believe God will do what is right.

And what do you believe that would be?

@kellyjay said
Do you think killing the unborn is the way to avoid hell for them? Slaughtering the
innocent to protect them before they can make a choice?

Dodge noted ✔️