04 Sep 16
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkGive an example of something you think is a universal truth and I'll tell you if I agree with you.
So then basically you don't know whether you can be sure about anything. But somehow you seem to be sure that the system of justice I believe in is somehow false?
04 Sep 16
Originally posted by divegeesterOk tell me firstly why you think it's true.
Well I think that's true, but does me thinking it make it a "universal truth".
Perhaps you want to define what a universal truth is?
If you believe that God exists, do you believe he only exists in your head or does he really exist?
A universal truth I would say is a statement that is always true and is universally binding.
04 Sep 16
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkAre you going to answer my question about eternal suffering?
Ok tell me firstly why you think it's true.
If you believe that God exists, do you believe he only exists in your head or does he really exist?
A universal truth I would say is a statement that is always true and is universally binding.
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04 Sep 16
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkA truth also needs to be substantiated.
Ok tell me firstly why you think it's true.
If you believe that God exists, do you believe he only exists in your head or does he really exist?
A universal truth I would say is a statement that is always true and is universally binding.
Your statement about the existence of God is meaningless while it remains unproven and falls well short of being a universal truth.
04 Sep 16
Originally posted by divegeesterAs CS Lewis puts it:
Are you going to answer my question about eternal suffering?
“There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, in the end, "Thy will be done." All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell. No soul that seriously and constantly desires joy will ever miss it. Those who seek find. Those who knock it is opened.”
04 Sep 16
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkThis is just another dodge. Clearly you do believe in it but are too ashamed to say, is that it?
As CS Lewis puts it:
“There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, in the end, "Thy will be done." All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell. No soul that seriously and constantly desires joy will ever miss it. Those who seek find. Those who knock it is opened.”
04 Sep 16
Originally posted by divegeesterSo you think that our choices don't determine where we will spend eternity? If not what does?
Do you really believe that people who are in hell being tortured by your version of a monster-God, actually "choose" to be there? Is this how you abdicate your responsibility for moral thought?