Originally posted by SuzianneWell the fact is we are doing JUST as Jesus said to the letter in the teaching work world wide. You can disagree all you want with our beliefs as even here at RHP you all disagree with each another everyday, every post, every sentence. So nothing new there...
I think what he is saying is more along the lines of: You're not doing as Jesus commanded. He commanded to go out and teach truth. What you guys are pushing is your version of the truth.
So Jesus very clearly described many points on how to identify his followers and exactly what they would be going in reguards to his commands.
No self professed Christian can pick and choose what they like, what feels good, is easy, and makes the world like you.
In fact Jesus said his work would be hard, and even deadly to those doing this and would be hated by who? "All the nations".
So one can sit back and point their little fingers at us and scoff and hate us just as Jesus said you would. As I said it's only because of one's guilt and lack of commitment to Jesus commands that you guys always attack our total commitment to Jesus's words..........
If anyone here can produce ((((((((( 1 ))))))))))) scripture that cancels out Jesus commands to teach door to door earthwide just as he did and told all Christians to do, then show me that scripture and I will stop the teaching work today and will send this scripture to the WTS and tell them they are wrong!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by galveston75I would say you guys are probably like the guy that was given the one talent.
Well the fact is we are doing JUST as Jesus said to the letter in the teaching work world wide. You can disagree all you want with our beliefs as even here at RHP you all disagree with each another everyday, every post, every sentence. So nothing new there...
So Jesus very clearly described many points on how to identify his followers and exactly what ...[text shortened]... ching work today and will send this scripture to the WTS and tell them they are wrong!!!!!!!!!!!
-Removed-I don't look at anyones compassion as being different, one from another. You either have it or you don't. This is why i don't condemn the Atheist, in many cases they are more christian than the christians. They are also sons and daughters of God. (Psst, they just don't know it, yet!!!)
God is God, if you choose to believe in the Trinity, ok so be it. But God is still One God. It is a part of the mystery of God. Believe in God and you'll be just fine. Don't even need all the fancy names. God is sufficient. If you want more of a focus, it would be the Father. Even Jesus tells us to go to the Father. Jesus tells us to be like Him, and He was always praying to the Father. "Father forgive them, they know not what they are doing."
Loving God includes showing compassion for anyone in need. And compassion does not sit idly by. You know when the Spirit moves in you when the urge comes to stop the old lady from shoveling snow on her sidewalk, and you do it for her. Not even looking for a thank you. You do it not for the reward (a thank you, money, other things) you do it because you want to.
You know when the Spirit moves you when the urge comes to give someone your winter coat. They are shivering, and you have many coats at home.
You know when the Spirit moves in you when the urge comes out of the blue to call some friend you haven't heard from in years.
A kind word, Etc. Etc.
It isn't in hearing the Word of God, but in recieving the Word. And when the compassion moves in you, to follow though with it. And God will already be living in you.
-Removed-Rather than get caught up in that thread again, lets look at some scenarios:
1. Suppose a theist believes that God does not want him to renounce his faith in Jesus. Suppose he is told 'renounce your faith or die'. He chooses to die rather than renounce his faith. Do you understand that stance, or do you think he is a total nutcase?
Originally posted by galveston75What I do agree with is that the world might be a better place if Christians would spread the Good News of the Gospel in as plain a way as possible, without embellishment, without partisanship, without an axe to grind, without a chip on one's shoulder.
Well the fact is we are doing JUST as Jesus said to the letter in the teaching work world wide. You can disagree all you want with our beliefs as even here at RHP you all disagree with each another everyday, every post, every sentence. So nothing new there...
So Jesus very clearly described many points on how to identify his followers and exactly what ...[text shortened]... ching work today and will send this scripture to the WTS and tell them they are wrong!!!!!!!!!!!
A lot of Christians DO do this, regardless of what people like Rajk and you and robbie say. We do not extol our works here because they stand on their own merit and do not need validation by the self-righteous types. That it is assumed that no works are being done shows how much boasting these people are trying to do, making it seem like they are the elite, the ONLY ones 'following Christ's words', when nothing is further from the truth. In fact we cannot know if these self-righteous people come home from their works and kick their dog or treat their family like dirt. I would just like to see all the self-righteous assuming to stop. Christ also commanded us to "love our Christian brothers" and I don't see a lot of people harping on THAT, even though there's a lot less of that going on than good works.
Originally posted by PudgenikBravo!
I don't look at anyones compassion as being different, one from another. You either have it or you don't. This is why i don't condemn the Atheist, in many cases they are more christian than the christians. They are also sons and daughters of God. (Psst, they just don't know it, yet!!!)
God is God, if you choose to believe in the Trinity, ok so be it. But ...[text shortened]... en the compassion moves in you, to follow though with it. And God will already be living in you.
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Originally posted by twhiteheadThis is the only stance for a Christian to take.
Rather than get caught up in that thread again, lets look at some scenarios:
1. Suppose a theist believes that God does not want him to renounce his faith in Jesus. Suppose he is told 'renounce your faith or die'. He chooses to die rather than renounce his faith. Do you understand that stance, or do you think he is a total nutcase?
Anything else is pure lip service.
Either a Christian takes His covenant with God seriously, or he does not.
If he does not, you can rest assured that God will not, either.
-Removed-Words have weight.
Remember the words of your acceptance of Christ's sacrifice for your sins? There is weight there, they mean something. God takes you at your word, He makes covenant with us that He will fulfill His promises to us, if only we accept His Son's sacrifice on the cross. Do you expect Him to understand your words renouncing your faith as "just words"?
Integrity. Words have meaning.
Originally posted by galveston75Why do you twist what he says?
Where's that scripture Ron? Show me that one that says not to do what we do? I'll be waiting.....
Does he SAY there is scripture saying not to preach the Word to the world?
That is, IF that is what you presume to be doing. After all, there is the Word of God, then there is a man's *version* of the Word of God.