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Abel's offering involving the shedding of blood was accepted. He probably learned from his parents Adam and Eve about how God slew an animal instead of the humans and clothed them with the animal's skin.

Cain, the real inventor of the first man-made religion, offered a sacrifice without blood representing his own good works and deeds. And God made a distinction which Cain hated.

" . . . Cain was of the evil one and slew his brother. And for what reason did he slay him? Because his works were evil, and his brother's righteous." (1 John 3:12)

The Apostle John goes on immediately to warn that similarly Christians should not be surprised that the worldly people hate the Christians.

"Do not marvel, brothers, if the world hates you." (v.13)

The worldly philosophy of self righteousness hates justification by faith.
We know of no other "works" done by Cain and Abel that precipitated the incident of the first murder of hatred. The "works" referred to have to point to the accepted offering of Abel against the rejected offering of Cain.

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The works that were righteous in the case of Abel was the work of offering an acceptable sacrifice to God. That was one which included the shedding of blood.

When 1 John 3:12 speaks of the works of Cain and Abel there are no other works of which we are told except their worship, their offerings in worship.
Shamelessly Promoting mouth worship again?
You are truly an evil man.

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Hymeneaus and Alexander were proponents of Gnosticism


From where did you get the information that Hymeneaus and Alexander were proponents of Gnosticism?

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Hymeneaus and Alexander were proponents of Gnosticism


From where did you get the information that Hymeneaus and Alexander were proponents of Gnosticism?
I read bible history like Flavius Josephus and others like him. Burn all those Witness Lee books and get some of the writings that the typical Jewish library had in the time of Christ. Only then can you understand certain things in the bible.

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sonship has repeatedly used Philippians 3:8 to justify denouncing my perspectives and beliefs as faeces and animal excrement.


I do not "repeatedly" use Phil 3:8 in this way.

I think you "repeatedly" remind yourself that you didn't like it when I spoke of this probably only ONCE in reference to you. That is what you were pursuing instead of Christ was dung.

The repetition is in your re-running the incident in your memory.

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I read bible history like Flavius Josephus and others like him. Burn all those Witness Lee books and get some of the writings that the typical Jewish library had in the time of Christ. Only then can you understand certain things in the bible.
You would have fit right in with the Pilgrims during the Salem Witch Trials.

The hysteria you display I imagine would also fit right in with the Spanish
Inquisition.

There is usually the "flavor" (rather stench really) of hysterical and unreasoned accusation. "Burn this" and "Burn that". You're not a Bible scholar just on a witch hunt.

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You would have fit right in with the Pilgrims during the Salem Witch Trials.

The hysteria you display I imagine would also fit right in with the Spanish
Inquisition.

There is usually the "flavor" (rather stench really) of hysterical and unreasoned accusation. "Burn this" and "Burn that". You're not a Bible scholar just on a witch hunt.
Actually where I fit in will be among those who heard and believed Christ's teachings. You would fit in with Hymeneaus and Alexander. The wise follower of Christ removes all hindrances to his entry into the Kingdom of God, eg the writings of Witness Lee. Your downfall is that you mistakenly believe that you have eternal life already and not even God can revoke that. The day you rid yourself of that delusion, will be the day you see the light. Right now you live in darkness.

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I read bible history like Flavius Josephus and others like him.

You are going to remain vague and general about it?

Show specifically where I can go to in the writings of Josephus and learn about these two co-workers of Paul - Hymeneaus and Alexander.

Or are you bluffing?

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Why don't you stop staling and handwaving to dodge my inquiry ?

Where in Flavius Josephus may I get some information about Hymeneaus and Alexander ?

Or was that just good sounding hot air?

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I read bible history like Flavius Josephus and others like him.

You are going to remain vague and general about it?

Show specifically where I can go to in the writings of Josephus and learn about these two co-workers of Paul - Hymeneaus and Alexander.

Or are you bluffing?
Find it yourself. I have spent about 14 years trying to teach you, but you are a total dunce. You just waste my time.

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Shamelessly Promoting mouth worship again?
You are truly an evil man.
Enter hysterical Rajk999 and the thread quickly devolves from any light into mere heat.

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Now, I mentioned Cain as an early specimen of a man angry against God.
I think we can include Adam himself. There is some veiled annoyance with God in Adam when he tries to excuse his transgression and blaming it on the woman that God gave to be with him.

"And He [God] said, Who told you that you are naked? Have you eaten of the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?

And the man said, The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me fruit from the tree, and I ate." (Gen. 3:11,12)


This is Adam's rationalizing excuse - it was God's fault for giving him the woman, his wife. Had God not given him the woman Eve he would not have eaten of the forbidden fruit.

I think we can detect some anger with God at the failure of his [Adam's] obedience to align his will with the will of his Creator.

He is annoyed with God (probably in anger) that his own chosen way had brought him into ruin and trouble.

"When a man's way brings him to ruin his heart rages against the Lord" (Prov. 19:3)

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Enter hysterical Rajk999 and the thread quickly devolves from any light into mere heat.
Relax, Im not sticking around. Got about 90 games going. Im sorting out some misconceptions in the Israeli - Palestinian conflict in Debats forum. So I check in every so often to see how your preaching going. Its still down in the gutter.

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Better for you to lose yourself in 90 games than suffer the embarrassment of failing to point out any errors in my preaching the NT Gospel.

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@divegeester said
Despite the blatantness of your thinly veiled barb in your comment, I’m really not interesting your insincerity or hypocrisy.
No, really. But if you want to believe I'm not sincere, then that's your problem. There was no thinly veiled barb.

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